I cant wait!

[N1kPaz]

When iraq is liberated, and the people get a chance to speak out, the coalition will be able to say..."we told you so" and looky here guys.....chemical artillery shells....hmmmm

this will be cool.

[davidpt40]

If this were a war about 'liberating' people, why not start with places that really treats its people bad:  Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, North Korea, China?  

Answer: Because that wont get you re-elected.

That being said, I am ready for the Big Show.  They better have some news crews set up to video tape the air strikes.  I'm paying for this show and I want to be entertained.  A low-level high sped dogfight over the desert would be neat.  Perhaps an F-15 versus two Mig-29s.  Fair fight probably.

M1s are not any fun to watch.  Maybe if the Marines used there M60s vs the Iraqi T72s it would be better.  

Aint no stopping it now, sit back and watch the fireworks.

[-Concho-]

Marines haven't used the M60 for quite some time...

[Toad]

Originally posted by davidpt40
If this were a war about 'liberating' people, why not start with places that really treats its people bad:  Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, North Korea, China?  

Answer: Because that wont get you re-elected.

 

Maybe it's because there's no 12 year record of ignoring UN SC resolutions on disarmament for any of those nations?

No "SC resolution 1441" against those nations?

Just a couple of "starters" for your consideration.

[N1kPaz]

because this is really more convenient, and he is a killer and has been a thorn in the side of civilized people for many years. its about responsibility. we are taking that responsibility.  Dont worry...we will help other oppressed people to be liberated. It makes me sick to think that supposedly civilized countries (france?) could be so callous of the true plight of the iraqi people. makes you wonder who is really in this for the money...us or them...well looks like we at least have the morality angle too.

[davidpt40]

Hes the lesser of two evil folks.  Iraq is probably the most civilized middle-eastern country.  True, their police are brutal.  But what has Saddam done that is so saddistic?  Gassing the Kurds?  Heck, it was Saddams RESPONSIBILITY to put down that uprising.

But compared to some of the Islamic fundamentalist countries, Iraq is a trip to Disney Land.  Women don't walk around with veils on their heads in Iraq.  They do in Iran, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and a few other countries.  I've seen plenty of footage of what they do to women in Islamic fundamentalist countries.  If you've got a strong enough stomach, I can even send you a link to that stuff.

But by far, Iraq is not the most brutal country in the middle-east or asia.  If you want to see some blood-shed, watch what happens if the country turns Muslim.

[Toad]

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[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by davidpt40
If this were a war about 'liberating' people, why not start with places that really treats its people bad:  Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, North Korea, China?  

Answer: Because that wont get you re-elected.

GHWB, and Churchill lost elections after they led military victories.

Your answer does not have historic precedent.

[Dowding]

Wow, Saddam was responsible for all that, Toad?! Who's grasping at straws now?

Didn't Saddam shoot JFK too?

It makes me sick to think that supposedly civilized countries (france?) could be so callous of the true plight of the iraqi people.

Where were you 20 years ago when Saddam was being supported by the US, in the knowledge that he was a genocidal maniac? Where were you when the US was selling chemical weapons precursors to Saddam AFTER he had gassed hundreds of thousands of Iranians and thousands of Kurds? Where was your indignation then?

The US and UK can't claim moral superiority after what has gone before.

[Dowding]

Churchill held onto the job after WW2. So did Thatcher. So did Major.

It does have historic precedence.

[Martlet]

Originally posted by davidpt40
Hes the lesser of two evil folks.  Iraq is probably the most civilized middle-eastern country.  True, their police are brutal.  But what has Saddam done that is so saddistic?  Gassing the Kurds?  Heck, it was Saddams RESPONSIBILITY to put down that uprising.

 

Where were you 20 years ago when Saddam was being supported by the US, in the knowledge that he was a genocidal maniac? Where were you when the US was selling chemical weapons precursors to Saddam AFTER he had gassed hundreds of thousands of Iranians and thousands of Kurds? Where was your indignation then?

Odd to see two people on the same side of the argument citing the same incident, one condemning, the other praising it.

We want Saddam gone.  He is a threat.  We are going to remove him.  If you don't like it, do something about it.  They are looking for volunteers for operation "Human Shield".

When we are done with him, we'll move to next on the list.

[Dowding]

Odd to see two people on the same side of the argument citing the same incident, one condemning, the other praising it.

It's called diversity of opinion. Last time I checked, it was still allowed.

When we are done with him, we'll move to next on the list.

And who might that be?

[Martlet]

Is that what you call it when someone praises the gassing of civilians?  Diversity of opinion?  And it's ok?

Heck, we need some diversity of opinion in France.


And when we move up the list, you'll know.  So be a good boy, and it won't be you.

[Naso]

Originally posted by Martlet
And when we move up the list, you'll know.  So be a good boy, and it won't be you.

Define a "good boy".

[Dowding]

You got me shaking in me booties, Martlet. "Be and good boy and it won't be you". Oh my!

Is that what you call it when someone praises the gassing of civilians? Diversity of opinion? And it's ok?

Of course it's diversity of opinion. What would you call it? A crime?