These guys are unbelieveable!

[Scootter]

French way of saying to Saddom "dont use the weapons we know you have as we helped supply the stuff to make em"

French also hope to have some say in the  25% of all Iraq Oil deal they had.    (Blood for Oil  indeed)

[straffo]

It's "le mécanicien" Toad

@curval : what do you expect else from politician ?
Now you're sure you won't be backed at all.

[ra]

J'aime pas monter dans les trains qui risquent de dérailler.

Does this mean what I think it means?  The French wouldn't board the train when Hitler was invading Poland, either.

ra

[Hortlund]

Pathetic
adj

1: deserving or inciting pity;
"a hapless victim"; "miserable victims of war"; "the shabby room struck her as extraordinarily pathetic"- Galsworthy; "piteous appeals for help"; "pitiable homeless children"; "a pitiful fate"; "couldn't rescue the poor fellow"; "his poor distorted limbs"; "a wretched life" [syn: hapless, miserable, misfortunate, piteous, pitiable, pitiful, poor, wretched] "French"
       
2: inspiring mixed contempt and pity; "their efforts were pathetic"; "pitiable lack of character"; "pitiful exhibition of cowardice" [syn: pitiable, pitiful] "they are so French"

3: inspiring scornful pity; "how silly an ardent and unsuccessful wooer can be especially if he is getting on in years"- Dashiell Hammett [syn: ridiculous, silly]

[WhiteHawk]

French straddle fences to avoid spending on military, they will suck up to the biggest threat, until it becomes apparent that
somebody else will win, then they will 'reverse suck'.
  The french, as a military institution, suck.

[Curval]

Originally posted by straffo
@curval : what do you expect else from politician ?

According to Dowding the politicians in France are merely reflecting the will of the people.

Perhaps you could either confirm this, or deny it so we can all be the wiser.

[Ripsnort]

Lets keep the French Gov't separate from "The French",  guys...we have french friends/aquaintences on this BBS, I would like to keep them separate.

Just like America, we have many that hate our Gov't, but do not hate Americans in general.

[straffo]

Originally posted by Curval
According to Dowding the politicians in France are merely reflecting the will of the people.

Perhaps you could either confirm this, or deny it so we can all be the wiser.

You want my POV I guess ?

I won't anytime back GWB in a war against Iraq as he want to do today .

If he chose the easy way (without UN backing) he must go alone and face the all consequences alone.

Not my war it's his war.

But if he manage to have UN backing I'll follow.

[straffo]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
Lets keep the French Gov't separate from "The French",  guys...we have french friends/aquaintences on this BBS, I would like to keep them separate.

Just like America, we have many that hate our Gov't, but do not hate Americans in general.

I even don't hate Hangtime ,Horltund and Habu (*)  dislike would be a more proper description.

(*) look like I've trouble with handle starting with 'H' letter  

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by straffo
I even don't hate Hangtime ,Horltund and Habu (*)  dislike would be a more proper description.

(*) look like I've trouble with handle starting with 'H' letter  

I probably won't change my name to "Hipsnort" until my children are teenagers.

[Curval]

Okay...now what if Iraq uses chemical or biological weapons?  Will you support the war then, as your politicians are saying?  Or will you still personally "insist" that the UN must consent before France acts?

(PS...I've kept well away from alot of the French bashing on this board Straffo, but when I see the kind of hypocracy that your politicians are sprouting now I simply cannot keep quiet.  

I think you and I understand each other on this level. )

[Saurdaukar]

Originally posted by straffo

Not my war it's his war.
 

Its not his war.  Its OUR war.  I stand behind my government.

[Rude]

When asked why the situation would change matters, Levitte said that "no army is allowed by treaties to use chemical and biological weapons. This is absolutely forbidden and if Saddam Hussein were to use these weapons then he would a create a completely new situation for the whole world."

[/b]

What about when he used them against his own people?

The French simply got outmanuevered and are doing the crab....ya know, it's good to know who your friends really are.

GW is sly like a Fox and has the stones to do what his predecessors failed to....his future dealings with the French will be interesting to watch....I wouldn't be suprised in the least to see him let them in the backdoor when the dust has settled...he knows the importance of strategic alliance, and is a leader wise enough to have the same serve the United States best interest long term.

[Ripsnort]

Mais nous n'avons pas su ce que "les conséquences Sérieuses" a signifié!

[Hangtime]

Originally posted by straffo
You want my POV I guess ?

I won't anytime back GWB in a war against Iraq as he want to do today .

If he chose the easy way (without UN backing) he must go alone and face the all consequences alone.

Not my war it's his war.

But if he manage to have UN backing I'll follow.

and yah know why i hate chirac?

because he had an opportunity to join with us and provide a united voice against saddam, and thereby possibly avoid any war at all.

his reticence has encouraged saddam, this will cost AMERICAN lives. and that i will not forget. nor will most americans.

your pissant leader has decided to announce he will veto ANY use of force.. and you, all smug with your 'if he manage to have UN backing" roadkill...

you suck, straffo. don't take it personal. but you surely suck if you can say that, knowing your leader will block any move the Un could make in backing us up.

it is impossible for there to be peace or freedom in iraq with saddam in power. you know this.

France sucks. You suck.

American soldiers, british soldiers lives.... thats what this will cost. plenty of 'em. thanks to toejamheads like chirac.

may france rot in hell.