Author Topic: Weazel is certainly correct about the war being about oil  (Read 2108 times)

Offline weazel

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Funny how that works ehh StSanta?
« Reply #30 on: March 20, 2003, 11:22:04 AM »
Where there's smoke there's fire.

Fatty, did you even read the 2nd link I posted?

Like Santa said there's no *hard* proof....but there is some pretty damning circumstantial evidence.

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« Reply #31 on: March 20, 2003, 12:51:28 PM »
Japan attacked US because we were protecting the oil fields of the south pacific and manchuria....

Do you still think war for oil is a bad idea?
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« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2003, 08:53:31 PM »
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Are you really stupid enough to blame  whatever kids deaths on the U.N.?  Food costs money.  The Iraqi government has lots of money, it's just that Saddam chose to kepp it all for himself. Saddam could have bought all the food he could afford, if he chose to. Any ONE person that died didn't do so because of the U.N., they did so because Saddam chose not to feed his people.  I'm somewhat shocked that there are people out there stupid enough to believe otherwise.
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« Reply #33 on: March 20, 2003, 10:27:19 PM »
I read the second one Weazel, though I'm not suprised they are not giving the Canadian company the same availability as they are the US ones.  Nor does it concern me.

Are you replacing your first conspiracy post with the second one?  Because they contradict each other.  Given the market value of the entire company is 94 million, its hard to make the 40 billion link.

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« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2003, 11:05:57 AM »
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Aww bull****.  you people really believe that?  You read something in print so it MUST be true?  Why is Saddam so well fed if there is no food in his country?  Why was he building palaces with the county's money instead of buyin food?  Are you guys really that obtuse? Do you think Saddam said,"  Oh gosh, no one will sell me food so I will spend 4 billion on a palace."  You guys are clowns if you really believe that tripe.



Steven have you seen the photos of his Palaces lately...

I guess photos of gold faucets, 3 swimming pools at one palaces, hundreds of frozen chickens,
As his people are starving,
Why would he spend 4 billion on palaces…..He’s a DICTAOR that’s why!
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« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2003, 11:25:01 AM »
Steve, along with several Pre-war anti-war activists are no longer reading the BBS's. ;) If they are reading it, they aren't replying...too much crow for one sit down meal I guess.

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Is Weazel off his meds?
« Reply #36 on: April 08, 2003, 11:57:11 AM »
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Now that Spurious George is dragging us into a war that nobody wants, and since our military is going to follow orders, Iraq's oil fields will soon be blazing....or at least enough of them so Boots and Coots can submit a trillion dollar repair bill to rape the American taxpayers.


I get it...Weazel is one of them conspiracy whacko nut-jobs.

Weazel...you are right because CNN reports that "Only 70% of Americans support the war with Iraq"

And where are all of these oil fires?  I have only heard of a few (as opposed to last war) and those are being reported by all press agencies as set by the Iraqis.

Keep up the good work ya loveable crazy person.

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I think it's rather amusing that 1/2 of the people who criticize GWB say he's an idiot and a bungler while the other 1/2 claim he's deviously intelligent so that he can profit from an unwanted war
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« Reply #37 on: April 08, 2003, 12:05:09 PM »
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Japan attacked US because we were protecting the oil fields of the south pacific and manchuria....


  Not quiet right.  Japan attacked because we stopped selling them oil in protest of there agression in Manchuria. They would run out in less than a year if they didn't capture the oil fields in Malaya.
  That, plus there long desire to have an Empire in the Western Pacific.

(Remember, in 1941 the U.S. was an oil EXPORTING nation.

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« Reply #38 on: April 08, 2003, 12:36:29 PM »
This war is about a lot of things, and different things to different players, but Oil is the major underlying feature. Without oil, nobody gives a crap about Iraq or the whole Middle East. It just becomes another economic void like Central Africa. Local and even "multinational" coalition companies in the oil biz will enjoy significant financial gains, and those of  the  "Axis of the unwilling" will suffer losses. Kinda hard to just see the "other guy's" selfish motivations without acknowledging that there are some people on our side who will come out quite ahead. The fact that this is an oil White House can't be overlooked either.
 
However, "stabilizing the region" seems to be the major oil related driver. Iraq is seen as serving as a much-needed oil reserves counter to Saudi Arabia (how many al-queada cells can you find within those borders?) and forms the cornerstone of the neo-conservative "Wolfowitz" doctrine for remaking the region from a position of power, and the willingness to use aggression to achieve those goals..

The questions that remain are:

1. Will Jeffersonian Democracy take hold, overcoming some significant territorial and religious obstacles, or will the new government need another Hussein to keep the state together. As happy as the Kurds are in the North, and the Shi’as are in the south, for the downfall of Hussein there are certainly those in both groups who see this as a golden opportunity to achieve their own goals, which are at odds with our vision. We'll just have to see how it works out.

2. If democracy doesn't take hold, how long will US peacekeeping forces be required to man checkpoints and run patrols in the face of snipers and suicide bombers? The anticipated 2 years? 10 Years? We can't just pull up and leave like in Beirut or Somalia. For one, we own the Iraqi future now and for another, well, there's that oil again. Hopefully, some form of cooperative and representative democracy will take hold.

3. Will the broader goals of the Wolfowitz doctrine to stabilize the region be realized without moving down the list of other "Axis of Evil" countries after Iraq? Will a wave of regional democracy follow the defeat of Iraq, or will the "Arab street" harden it's stance against the West. Will it matter if it does? Will we lose the existing moderate states to radicalism? Again, time will tell. One vision of the doctrine has Israel reaching peace with the Palestinian's on Sharon's terms (an extension of the "Iron Wall" concept). The Blair vision of this issue might be quite different. For that matter Bush may not be buying in to the full doctrine (as established by the neo-conservatives) and see the need for significant concessions from Israel. Again, only time will tell.

In the end, the war might be the easiest part of this action. But, hopefully, these guys in Washington will turn out to be as smart as they think they are. Only time will tell.

Charon
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« Reply #39 on: April 08, 2003, 01:07:35 PM »
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Not quiet right.  Japan attacked because we stopped selling them oil in protest of there agression in Manchuria. They would run out in less than a year if they didn't capture the oil fields in Malaya.
  That, plus there long desire to have an Empire in the Western Pacific.

(Remember, in 1941 the U.S. was an oil EXPORTING nation.


And don't forget to explain WHY we stopped selling them oil. ;)  Can you say "Rape of Nanking"

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« Reply #40 on: April 08, 2003, 01:08:08 PM »
All good questions Charon.

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« Reply #41 on: April 08, 2003, 01:17:36 PM »
Again,  if you clowns believe that any children died as a result of UN sanctions... you are complete love muffines.  saddam chose to spend his money on private palaces and luxuries instead of feeding his people.  To hold the UN responsible for any starvation deaths is complete folly.  Why, tell me why Ripsnort, if there wasn't food going into Iraq, why were all the Iraqi leadership so well fed?  The answer is because they were looking after themselves, spending all their oil profits on nice cars and palaces instead of feeding the people. Let me repeat it you moron:  To blame any of the starvation deaths on the UN is to completely ignore the facts. Your stupidity absolutely astounds me.
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« Reply #42 on: April 08, 2003, 01:42:52 PM »
First off, you lost any arguement or credibility Steve, name calling means, you lose.

Secondly, I posted this article with the feelings that the failure of the UN to bring this situation to a peaceful end is partly to blame due to keeping their coffers full.

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« Reply #43 on: April 08, 2003, 01:49:13 PM »
If the shoe fits..... it may be name calling but seems dead on to me.  Anyone who believes the UN sanction led to the death of anyone is a complete moron.  

Why, tell me why Ripsnort, if there wasn't food going into Iraq, why were all the Iraqi leadership so well fed? The answer is because they were looking after themselves, spending all their oil profits on nice cars and palaces instead of feeding the people.
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« Reply #44 on: April 08, 2003, 01:49:32 PM »
Its both ,...!!!as Steve puts it... YOU MORONS!!!!

Both are wrong..Yes Batth party is major problem with the UN rigth behind itbehind it..

Am i Wrong?  NO

UN DEFNTLY PROFITS HEAVILY FROM IRAQ!!! NO doubt about it..


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When I said Lee Larvey Weazel..it was a JOKE..LARVEY !! You know what a Larvey is? Get a dictionary...lmfao

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ahh what a waste of typing