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Weazel is certainly correct about the war being about oil
« on: March 19, 2003, 11:09:45 AM »
Exhibit 1 --

"Oil Loss Hits UN coffers" -- The United Nations is losing its only cash cow with the shutdown of Iraq's oil fields -- with profits of more than $300 million year. The UN has been making a tidy gain acting as a partner for Iraq for the past 11 years to sell its embargoed oil in exchange for food and medical supplies. "It was the only profitable thing at the UN", said one oil analyst. "It paid for a lot of programs and overhead there."

The UN controlled the sale of as much as $200 billion in Iraqi oil since the 1996 economic embargo started against Iraq . . . . "Everyone on the Security Council liked the arrangement because of the relief money it provided," said oil analyst Peter Beutel of Cameron, Hanover. He said the UN also arranged for the purchase of food and pharmaceuticals with the oil money.

Exhibit 2 --

Reuters -- (Paris) "Oil-scandal trial opens in France" -- Thirty-seven defendants will be asked to explain dirty dealings within France's political and business elite involving the embezzlement of some $200 million and former oil giant Elf at a trial that opened yesterday.

The fruit of an eight-year investigation, the trial will expose the use of cash sweeteners to secure contracts for the then state-owned Elf in oil-rich countries, and how some of that cash slipped inot the pockets of certain executives.

It will also rake up well-known sleaze like the kick-backs from an illegal arms deal secured via a now in-famous liaison between then Foreign Minister Roland Dumas and a woman who dubbed herself "The ***** of the Republic."

The trial will be keenly watched in France where the affair has stirred up charges of endemic corruption during the last years of the late President Francois Mitterrand.

Elf was controlled by the state at the time huge sums of cash were allegedly siphoned off into offshore bank accounts between 1989 and 1993. It is now part of French oil major TotalFinaElf, which is negotiating multi-billion-dollar deals with Iraq.  

The trial, which is due to run for around four months, follows the longest investigation in French judicial history.

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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2003, 11:17:04 AM »
Not a surprise, exibhit 2, was guessing somthing similar since the France opposition.

As for evidence 1, I think is not a bad think, I dont see somthing negative in it.

Would be interesting to see what will change After the war.

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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2003, 11:53:21 AM »
naso... after the war the UN will simply ask for more money from the U.S. to pay the rent and keep the lights on.  
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Re: Weazel is certainly correct about the war being about oil
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2003, 01:53:34 PM »
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Exhibit 1 --

"Oil Loss Hits UN coffers" -- The United Nations is losing its only cash cow with the shutdown of Iraq's oil fields -- with profits of more than $300 million year. The UN has been making a tidy gain acting as a partner for Iraq for the past 11 years to sell its embargoed oil in exchange for food and medical supplies. "It was the only profitable thing at the UN", said one oil analyst. "It paid for a lot of programs and overhead there."

The UN controlled the sale of as much as $200 billion in Iraqi oil since the 1996 economic embargo started against Iraq . . . . "Everyone on the Security Council liked the arrangement because of the relief money it provided," said oil analyst Peter Beutel of Cameron, Hanover. He said the UN also arranged for the purchase of food and pharmaceuticals with the oil money.

Exhibit 2 --

Reuters -- (Paris) "Oil-scandal trial opens in France" -- Thirty-seven defendants will be asked to explain dirty dealings within France's political and business elite involving the embezzlement of some $200 million and former oil giant Elf at a trial that opened yesterday.

The fruit of an eight-year investigation, the trial will expose the use of cash sweeteners to secure contracts for the then state-owned Elf in oil-rich countries, and how some of that cash slipped inot the pockets of certain executives.

It will also rake up well-known sleaze like the kick-backs from an illegal arms deal secured via a now in-famous liaison between then Foreign Minister Roland Dumas and a woman who dubbed herself "The ***** of the Republic."

The trial will be keenly watched in France where the affair has stirred up charges of endemic corruption during the last years of the late President Francois Mitterrand.

Elf was controlled by the state at the time huge sums of cash were allegedly siphoned off into offshore bank accounts between 1989 and 1993. It is now part of French oil major TotalFinaElf, which is negotiating multi-billion-dollar deals with Iraq.  

The trial, which is due to run for around four months, follows the longest investigation in French judicial history.


So you are saying the US is going to war for oil, yet you post examples of the UN and France being affected by the loss of oil from Iraq?   Neither France nor the UN are entering into this campaign.

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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2003, 01:57:10 PM »
zzzzzzzzzoooom!

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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2003, 01:59:42 PM »
It looks like Rip is saying that the utter failure of the UN to bring this situation to a peaceful end is due, in part (large part?), to oil.

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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2003, 02:03:02 PM »
I think Rip is saying the French politician's and UN's utter complete lack of a pair in enforcing their own resolutions is because of their own greed.
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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2003, 02:47:39 PM »
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I think Rip is saying the French politician's and UN's utter complete lack of a pair in enforcing their own resolutions is because of their own greed.
-SW


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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2003, 02:51:06 PM »
good toejam rip..salute

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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2003, 03:13:22 PM »
Sorry but exibit 2 is so mixed up that I doubt it's a real Reuter news.

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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2003, 03:26:38 PM »
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Sorry but exibit 2 is so mixed up that I doubt it's a real Reuter news.


Just do a google search on "Elf", you can get your news source of your choice, story is the same though.

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« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2003, 03:37:35 PM »
I can do the same mixing 10 news and linking them together.

And the nice "Fléche du parthes" was the mention of Iraq at the end.

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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2003, 04:08:27 PM »
Lee Harvey Weazel has gone quiet :)

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« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2003, 04:13:37 PM »
lolol lee Larvey weazel....lolo

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« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2003, 04:16:36 PM »
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lolol lee Larvey weazel....lolo


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