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« on: March 19, 2003, 04:23:05 PM »
Three weekends ago, millions of demonstrators across the globe protested on behalf of "human rights." Their marches, slogans, placards and speeches did not declaim against Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, did not cite the human rights reports detailing his tyranny and torture, did not take account the plaints of Iraqis fortunate enough to live in exile.

 
 
 
 
Rather, they protested the U.S. and the U.K. and their efforts to topple Saddam and liberate Iraq. Now, we are seeing more television advertisements along these lines, and even a "virtual march on Washington."

Just after the celebration of Abraham Lincoln’s birthday, it is appropriate to remember his lament: "The world has never had a good definition of the word ‘liberty.’" With Saddam flouting international law, and President Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair attempting to enforce it, portrayals of Bush as Adolf Hitler — as we saw and heard in the "human rights" protests — betray an ignorance of liberty, an ignorance of right and wrong, an ignorance of commonsense. Because Bush and Blair are putting together a coalition of countries to oust Saddam, they are labeled the warmongers and tyrants. We live in a confusing time indeed.

Lincoln described liberty by a useful analogy: "The shepherd drives the wolf from the sheep's throat, for which the sheep thanks the shepherd as a liberator, while the wolf denounces him for the same act as the destroyer of liberty." Lincoln made it clear who the sheep was and who the wolf was. It is equally important to recognize who the liberator is.

Those who march against the U.S. and the U.K. today, those who condemn Bush and Blair and remain silent when it comes to Saddam, are in league with the wolf’s view that the shepherds are destroying liberty. The people of Iraq will soon know what Afghanis know. The true wolf was devouring Afghanis, the true shepherd saved them.

It is worth remembering what those in the former Soviet republics know and what the anti-American Western street has forgotten: It was, and is, U.S. and British resolve that truly liberates the oppressed and that defends the lives and liberties of the free against the appetites and ill-will of the world’s dictators.

In 1998 then-President Bill Clinton stated: "What if he [Saddam] fails to comply [with disarmament] and we fail to act? He will conclude that the international community has lost its will. He will then go right on building up his arsenal. Someday, someway, I guarantee you, he'll use that arsenal." Last year, former Vice President Al Gore stated, "[W]e know that he [Saddam] has stored away secret supplies of biological weapons and chemical weapons throughout his country."

It is not President Bush who woke up one day to discover that Saddam was making and harvesting weapons of mass destruction. Yet it is Bush who is blamed for doing something about it. Saddam may be mad, but he is not a scientist. He does not collect chemical and biological weapons for mere pleasure and intrigue. Just ask the survivors of Halabja. So when Saddam acts, it will be Bush and America who are blamed for inaction, for appeasement. We will be liable for such blame because we are the only ones who can do something about it.

We are not at war with Muslims or Arabs around the world; we are at war with some Muslim and Arab leaders who misinterpret their religion and put a primacy on war over peace and slavery over freedom. But among the leadership in the world’s moral democracies there is no misinterpretation, and nowhere is that more true than in the case of the U.S.

This is not a new role for us, but is a unique role we proudly inherit as the world’s liberator. As Wolf Blitzer pointed out: "Over the past two decades, almost every time U.S. military forces have been called into action to risk their lives and limbs, it's been on behalf of Muslims. ... [T]o assist the Afghan mujahadin … during the Soviet invasion in the 1980s, to liberate Kuwait following the Iraqi invasion of 1990, to help Somali Muslims suffering at the hands of a warlord in Mogadishu, to help Muslims first in Bosnia and then in Kosovo who faced a Serb onslaught, and more recently to liberate Afghanistan from its Taliban and Al Qaeda rulers."

Those who protest against the U.S. just now are legatees of those who protested against the U.S. in the 1980s, when we fought the focus of evil then, the Soviet Union. But ask a former Soviet, or East Berliner, if he is better off now than he was, say, 15 years ago. Ask a Nicaraguan. Ask a Bosnian Muslim. U.S. resolve can be thanked for all that, even as those who protested our defense and military postures marched in favor of appeasement.

Indeed, we live in a strange time when the anti-nuclear movement and its leaders of yesterday can today suggest a course of inaction such that Saddam will be able to join North Korea in becoming a nuclear power. The only logical conclusion one can reach is that for the protesters today, weapons in the hands of the U.S. are to be met with outrage while weapons in the hands of Saddam are to be met with silence.

We seek to liberate Iraq today, not only because for Saddam "[t]orture is not a method of last resort in Iraq, it is often the method of first resort," according to Kenneth Pollack, President Clinton’s director of Gulf Affairs at the NSC. We seek to liberate Iraq because after Sept. 11, 2001, we were put on notice. We were put on notice that civilized people can no longer live in a bubble and hope for the best. We were put on notice that there are fanatics and tyrants who want nothing from us but our death. And this notice requires action: the action of the brave, the action of the unthanked, the action of the free.

In Iraq as in other contemporary situations, the responsibility to act has been ours because the ability has been ours. The responsibility has been ours because oppressed people look to us for their deliverance. There is a duty in being the nation that Abraham Lincoln, speaking of our Declaration of Independence, called "a rebuke and a stumbling-block to the very harbingers of re-appearing tyranny and oppression." That is who we happen to be. And it is an honor.

William J. Bennett,


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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2003, 04:23:42 PM »
Man you have really improved your grammar and writing skills!

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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2003, 04:25:03 PM »
Either that or he just learned how to "copy & paste".

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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2003, 04:30:27 PM »
i am against the war...not against removing saddam...but with luck the war will be over in under 3 weeks...or by christmas

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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2003, 04:35:06 PM »
yes thank you guys...

This is exactly how i feel..no its not mine..I will put authors name on it..I thot i did

Vort..I hope so too..Im scared of the Bio-chem stuff on our guys:(

I really am..God Bless them.please


here you go..


William J. Bennett, chairman of Americans for Victory Over Terrorism, is a former secretary of Education and the author of Why We Fight: Moral Clarity and the War on Terrorism, re-released and updated in paperback (Regnery, 2003).


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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2003, 05:05:13 PM »
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Originally posted by BGBMAW
yes thank you guys...

This is exactly how i feel..no its not mine..I will put authors name on it..I thot i did



LOL Like anyone really believed you actually have the mental capacity to put forth reasoned, articulate thought. LMAO, don't flatter yourself, imbicile.

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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2003, 05:10:57 PM »
Airhead, you need a beer or a joint or sex... or something... just don't quit the UBB and say the reason was because I offered you sex or drugs.
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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2003, 05:11:28 PM »
clever...
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Americans for Victory Over Terrorism


AVOTerr.

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Like there are Americans that are against a victory over terrorism. LOL.

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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2003, 05:42:30 PM »
Wulfie, it's harder to follow the discussions when you leave for a few days, come back and are confronted with zero response threads like "Flies fornicating on a windowsill" or "My cat has farted." (rc51) Then you have your graphic images of burn victims (courtesy Davidpt40) or posts full of F-Bombs (BGBMAW) and frankly I prefer AGW due to its slower pace and the fact the Three Stooges haven't yet spammed those boards.

I will no longer sit silently by - looking at images I find distasteful, reading F-Bombs dropped by idiots with a fourth grade education, or spam generated by a disgruntled worker at Taco Bell on his mommy's computer- any longer. The war is on- when they post I will respond. Harshly.

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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2003, 05:44:08 PM »


This should be good.

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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2003, 05:55:20 PM »
dang BGB, sometimes knowing what to cut and paste is just as good as writing it yourself.  I notice airhead still calling names; good, you've moved up in the standings, vs. him.  Keep it up, bro

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« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2003, 06:01:53 PM »
LOL Rasker, you're a good squadie. I you for that, and as I fly in the Main Arena killing MAWS I will show you mercy and kill you last. .

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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2003, 06:06:11 PM »
sure bro, right after I kill you

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« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2003, 06:12:56 PM »
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i am against the war...not against removing saddam...


I've heard this alot recently.

Just how do you expect Saddam to be removed?  By asking nicely?
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« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2003, 06:17:45 PM »
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I've heard this alot recently.

Just how do you expect Saddam to be removed?  By asking nicely?


By presenting a resolution in the UN for it to be voted. A resolution that calls for Saddam Hussein&family leaving Irak or face the use of force.

If it passes, and if the doesn't leave, then you go to a legal war and remove him from power.

See how easy?.

I'm all for removing Saddam from power in a legal war. Not to doing it in an illegal war that seriously shatters UN credibility.