Author Topic: TA-152 eny and perkies? (Read 377 times)

StSanta · « **on:** March 27, 2001, 10:52:00 PM »

Aye, it's a good looking plane. And, above 30k it is quite an über one.

Me and Kirin flew it for some sorties yesterday, losing one each to ripped left wing at 400mph.

At any rate, we were down low, 15k and below for 95% of the time. Most fights tend to take place under 15k and when we met higher enemies, they split-s'd and ran for lower altitude.

Down low the TA-152 isn't a über fighter. It isn't particularly fast, doesn't turn well and doesn't climb that good. Nice fighter still, but not more so than say a P51 or a G10.

I'd suggest non perking it or making it cheaper, and modifying the ENY setting - it is ridiculously low as it is.

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FabryKA6 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 28, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

I agree with you StSanta

Ta152 is fantastic over 30k
but at normal combat altitute 190D9-109G10-P51-F4u-La7-SpittIX are better
so or HT unperk ta152 or 190D9-109G10-P51D-P51B-F4u-La7-SpittIX must all be perked.

MANDOBLE · « **Reply #2 on:** March 28, 2001, 05:25:00 AM »

I'm curious about how Ta performs with the same ammount (not %) of fuel than a 190D9. Very limited experience with the Ta, but it seems 50% of fuel is equivalent to 190D9 100%. If I'm right them compare Ta152 50% fuel with D9 100% fuel.

oboe · « **Reply #3 on:** March 28, 2001, 07:04:00 AM »

I agree, and on the opposite side of this coin is the LA-7; its manueverability, speed, and firepower are superb, and yet its not perked?

I hope we see some changes in the perk costs and ENY values next tour, based on the stats that are being produced this tour.

straffo · « **Reply #4 on:** March 28, 2001, 07:12:00 AM »

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Originally posted by oboe:
I agree, and on the opposite side of this coin is the LA-7; its manueverability, speed, and firepower are superb, and yet its not perked?

Neither the D9

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #5 on:** March 28, 2001, 09:15:00 AM »

I would have agreed with this the first week after 1.06 was released. I don't think I do anymore.

The La-7 is a good plane below 15k. It is better than most down that low. But it is by no means WAY ahead of the crowd in that area. I've killed lots of them and have found them to be somewhat possible to defend against.

I can't say the same for the high-alt 152 or a Tempest at any alt.

The 152 above 25k does something no other fighter can do.. it turns without bleeding all of its E. I was amazed as I was able to actually do several slashing passes on a 25k lancaster the other day. I'd reverse and still be doing 250. I don't know of another plane where that is possible. I was able to re-engage the Lancaster so fast that he thought 3 planes were hitting him instead of 2. It was amazing.

AKDejaVu

Pepe · « **Reply #6 on:** March 28, 2001, 09:38:00 AM »

Although I think that DejaVu is correct, and, thus, Ta152 could be consider a perk, I think perking it is not fair. The reason I think this is that altho a 152 properly flown is nearly untouchable for any plane, the way out for the average fiter is easy...go down, and Ta152 either breaks up, or is history. So draw in this particular field. BUT...Ta152 are hi buff interceptors. AND everyone knows how easily buff guns kills anything closer than 1k. It is very very risky business to attack a buff right now.

Resumee: You have a plane that is VERY vulnerable in his way up and in his way down, quite vulnerable in his main task (buff supression) and not particularily often seen in the Arena. Why have it perked?

This is not a buff whine, I think a buff should have the playability edge, but the ultimate reason why I think Ta152 should be unperked or, at the very least, be a really cheap one.

Cheers,

Pepe

Saintaw · « **Reply #7 on:** March 28, 2001, 09:53:00 AM »

The only thing that can kill a Ta152 when you're flying it is Stupidity... I have been faring quite well in that discipline lately

had a verry fun run/fight 44MAG/Natedog & Octavius handed me my b*lls after a quite long hit & run session from your servant in his 2nd Ta152 wreck... ahhh if only I could shoot

When I die in it, it's because I've been stupid/Gamey enough to go below 20K... of course, the only thing you meet higher up there is the 13TAS... I am usualy back in the tower pretty fast too

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Torgo · « **Reply #8 on:** March 28, 2001, 11:23:00 AM »

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Originally posted by oboe:
I agree, and on the opposite side of this coin is the LA-7; its manueverability, speed, and firepower are superb, and yet its not perked?

The LA-7 isn't even close to having the most kills in the arena, and it's kill/death ratio is barely above 1:1.

It has fewer kills and a far worse K/D than the Dora, for example.

Sturm · « **Reply #9 on:** March 28, 2001, 11:35:00 AM »

How many rookies flying the LA-7? Most of my kills against a LA-7 pilot are when they are behind someone. D9 as it is I would bet mos tof the kills are HO's or getting behind someone that is behind someone else. As I see it do not perk the D-9, do not perk the LA-7 or 51, unperk the TA-152, or make it relateivle cheap say 10 perkies. For the kind of combat that takes place the D9 & 152 are not uber, thats for sure.

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hazed- · « **Reply #10 on:** March 28, 2001, 08:33:00 PM »

look at the stats again...

F4c vs all planes:
F4uc 16759 kills 11635 deaths
dora 8035 kills 6048 deaths

the f4c is still uber and has been for tours and tours! you get the dora against you and you want it perked in its first tour??! LOL

and just a little fact:

F4Uc 23582 kills 16716 deaths for tour 13
dora 0 vs 0 !!!

give us some time before you allied fliers throw your rattle out of your crib and demand the dora is perked.Lets say what you said to us

'if you cant outfly it learn to fly in it'

yeah exactly what we thought

youve had it easy verses my old' 190a8 for a long time

and now i want some payback time

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Fatty · « **Reply #11 on:** March 28, 2001, 08:44:00 PM »

1.6550

If you want to perk everything over 1.0 k/d that's fine with me, but if we're going to have perks I don't think the second highest k/d should be unperked.

Dingy · « **Reply #12 on:** March 28, 2001, 11:38:00 PM »

If yer gonna perk anything, perk the chutes. Just did a comparison of all models vs all models from the stats page and chutes have 932 kills and 0 deaths.

Little rediculous dont you think???

-Ding

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #13 on:** March 29, 2001, 12:02:00 AM »

Fighter kills since the release of 1.06:

F4u-1C: 7384:5365 1.38k/d
La-7: 6179:5650 1.09k/d
Spit-9: 6149:6143 1.00k/d
Dora: 6107:4424 1.38k/d

AKDejaVu

straffo · « **Reply #14 on:** March 29, 2001, 01:47:00 AM »

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the f4c is still uber and has been for tours and tours! you get the dora against you and you want it perked in its first tour??! LOL

YES!
I've seen in this BBS (and for month) some LW fan screaming the that CHog should be perked (which is no more needed with the current planeset IMO).

And as my 30$ are as good as your I want to use my "constitutional" right to whine for the next 10 tours

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