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Offline Toad

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This anti-war Liberal's opinion: Get the bastiges USA/UK.
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2003, 10:46:39 AM »
No.

It would confirm the opinion in their minds that the US is a bunch of Evil Bastiges and must be stopped before more nations are freed.


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« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2003, 10:50:04 AM »
The UN's affiliate organisations do a lot of work that is not very well recognised. Check out their website; it's worth a look.
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« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2003, 10:55:59 AM »
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The UN's affiliate organisations do a lot of work that is not very well recognised. Check out their website; it's worth a look.



With US money.  Personaly I think we could do a better job of it....

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« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2003, 11:07:21 AM »
Dowding, the UN does many good things, no question, and needs to be continued, but I'm questioning if it's wise to depend on the UN in matters of national security.

Part of the reason Britain lost ships to Argentinian Exorcet missiles during the Falklands War was that Britain had assumed an ASW role in a NATO capacity and had little anti aircraft defenses in its fleet.

In therory the UN as a chief arbitrator of disputes is a great idea, but in reality the UN has done very little to prevent wars, coups or revolutions.

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« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2003, 11:13:53 AM »
How much US money? I seem to have a figure in my head of 22%. Other nations bring other things - such as peace keeping troops.

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Part of the reason Britain lost ships to Argentinian Exorcet missiles during the Falklands War was that Britain had assumed an ASW role in a NATO capacity and had little anti aircraft defenses in its fleet.


Then mutual defence organisations don't really work either. :)Unilaterilism is the way to proceed?

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... but in reality the UN has done very little to prevent wars, coups or revolutions.


Was it really ever meant to do that? A coup or revolution is an internal event; if people want to murder and kill each other - they will, no matter what the outside world says. Peacekeepers can only keep peace, where there is peace to start with. In Bosnia, for instance, there was no peace and it was an impossible mission.

The UN is not some faceless corporation. When people talk about the failure of the UN, they are really talking about the failure of the constituent nations.

Failure to prevent war, to diffuse tension, is a failure by the SC to exert the pressure needed to achieve a peaceable solution. The buck stops there, in my opinion.
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« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2003, 01:17:17 PM »
Sorry Spook.  AU

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