Serious question for people...

[Nash]

Is peace simply the absence of war?

No... Peace is the absence of WMD.

Er... wait a minute...

[Leslie]

And what was the rectangle object?

My God, it's full of stars.



Les

[SirLoin]

Peace is the bull**** reason for some people to go to war when it's not the last option.

[Leslie]

That reminds me of the Richard Pryor movie, where he jumped over the fence and was confronted by two vicious Doberman Pincers.  While the Dobermans growled, Pryor was saying, "Golly-geen, I'm in trouble.  Howbout some nice doggie bones..."more growling and bearing of teeth.

They get ready to attack, and Pryor says,  "What do you want.  Suck your dick?"

The Dobermans sit down and get real friendly and start licking.



You'd have to see the movie to think it's funny, but Pryor is always cool, no matter what.




Les

[Leslie]

Btw, I used to live next door to two giant English Dobermans.  They would come over to the fence and put their paws on my shoulders.  They must have been six feet tall standing up.  They were the friendliest dogs I've ever seen.  They were two big giant friendly, licking dogs.  They wouldn't have been good guard dogs.




Les

[Hangtime]

peace is not the absence of war.

peace is the ability to defend oneself with enough firepower to convince everyone to not even THINK about jerkin yer chain.

[Arlo]

Is this a famous Canadian quote? Because it's fitting if it is. Makes no sense whatsoever, eh?

Originally posted by SirLoin
Peace is the bull**** reason for some people to go to war when it's not the last option.

[Curval]

Qui deserat pacum, preparat bellum

He who desires peace, prepare for war.

[john9001]

Peace is the dream of the wise.

War is the history of man.

[blitz]

War is fun if only enemies die, much like stockcar racing



Regards Blitz



America was threatened by Iraq in no way , it was just plain ridiculous, it's a classic 'Angriffskrieg'

[Arlo]

Germans love protesting everyone else's wars. It's their main form of recreation when they're not trying to take over Europe.

[Suave]

Originally posted by funkedup
Plenty of other species kill their own kind.  
And in humans, war predates culture.  I think natural selection is always going to result in the dominant species being one that can kick a little ass.
Think of the beginning of Kubrick's 2001.  What's more peaceful, having a full belly and fresh water to drink and a little blood on your hands, or having none of the above?

Amen, intellectualism and civility are noble and good ideals that we should never ceace to strive for, however make no mistake it is by way of the club that we protect these ideals . Force and brutality are what make the planets go 'round and the trees grow, we write laws and draft constitutions, but mother nature pays no heed to ink and paper, and try as we might we will never remove ourselfs from her world . It is, was and ever will be the law of the jungle that ultimately governs, just be glad that the band of monkeys with the biggest sticks are the nice monkeys, and let's try to keep it that way .

[X2Lee]

Originally posted by blitz
War is fun if only enemies die, much like stockcar racing



Regards Blitz

Blitz you show your ignorance yet again.

[AtmkRstr]

Originally posted by Mathman
Is peace simply the absence of war?  Or is it something more?

It depends on who you ask. In a bird course I took called "the Roots of Conflict and Violence" they use the word violence to cover everything from physical to emotional or social harm.  They listed 4 different types of violence.    They then defined several types of peace based on what kinds of violence were present.  

So, before you go to the trouble of arguing about peace/war, you should define your terms.

If you really want to know, I suggest you find a book about that stuff, or take a college/university course on it.  Keep in mind that most of those books are written by obsesive pacifists, so you can expect that your views will conflict with theirs on several subjects, but that just makes things more intereting.

Books and courses will usually be listed under "Peace Studies".  Unfortunatly, my school doesn't teach anything about "War Studies".

[Mathman]

Originally posted by blitz
War is fun if only enemies die, much like stockcar racing



Regards Blitz



America was threatened by Iraq in no way , it was just plain ridiculous, it's a classic 'Angriffskrieg'

Blitz,

Until this post (and the thread that was locked), I was willing to give you some leeway concerning your comments.  You are obviously very committed in your beliefs on war in general and specifically this war.

However, with this and other recent posts, you have lost my respect.  You seem to confuse support for troops with war mongering.  You seem to hate the US for not doing anything 20 years ago, and you hate the US for doing something now.

Please, feel free to continue hating the US.  I will keep up the proud tradition of my grandfathers and great uncles and continue to hate Germany.

Thanks,
-Math