Author Topic: blitz or weazel? (Read 1359 times)

aztec · « **Reply #30 on:** March 25, 2003, 04:52:03 AM »

Ahhh the daily moron o thon continues.

Martlet · « **Reply #31 on:** March 25, 2003, 04:55:24 AM »

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Originally posted by aztec
Ahhh the daily moron o thon continues and I see most all of the principles have checked in.

Yep, I'm here.

And where the heck is moosesnout. I thought I knew every place in maine.

SaburoS · « **Reply #32 on:** March 25, 2003, 05:16:05 AM »

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Originally posted by BGBMAW
Cork Smoking liberal ..dirty stinkn hippies..
Communists-Stalin-Socialists-AntiAmerican
This is who supports the ANTi_America-Anti War Protest
A.N.S.E.W.E.R. ..read up on them..and you will see who pays the .HUNDREDS oF THOSUANDS of dollars for the protests..
They make me sick..
And back to the one bullet thing...
I would shave the lead to a powder ..then sneak it into the water that they are drinking.. a Slow death will work well...Kind of like how the IRAQ's torture out Soldiers..
ABSLOLUTLY DISGUSTING....BURN IN HELL IRAQ GOv...BURN IN HELL
Ya ya..im not comparing you guys to these ..human scum..but you support theses guys with the way you posts...so be it..conclude your own...
Feel free to cut and paste anything here...
BiGB
xoxo

...so what have you been smoking then?
So some of you guys would like to kill a fellow American (half-heartedly joking-maybe)? Because he has a dissenting opinion? Keep in mind that he has not said anywhere that he favors Saddam. Where does he say that he favors the colapse of democracy or the United States? In fact he seems to be EXERCISING his rights to free speech. Before you armchair phychiatrists pronounce his state of sanity, you'd perhaps look in the mirror first.

Let's see here who among us in the "Anti-American":
1) The one who exercises his dissenting opinions using free speech (a time honored tradition in our country BTW).
----or-----
2) The one trying to silence the individual exercising his rights? (hmm reminisent of Stalin and Hitler regimes to name but a couple.)

What exactly are freedom, democracy, and civil liberties to you? Just keywords that are ok as long as you don't exercise them?

I'm for our Civil Liberties and our Constitution and for what they stand. Call me pro-American, pro-democracy, and pro-civil liberties. I'll fight to protect those very same rights for you also. If you don't support my rights, weazel's rights, Dowding's rights, or anyone else you disagree with on these boards, then who really is the anti-American here?

Oh, by all means attack the messenger and not the message with your silly labels and name-calling as it would really surprise me that you'd actually argue the issues.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #33 on:** March 25, 2003, 05:24:11 AM »

Who the plow is tring to silence you people, unless of course you consider being called on your BS silencing? You guys consider disagreement and counterprotest as a form of facist silencing, its pretty clear and was made blatantly obvious in the dixe chicx boycott thread.

As for your concern about violence being inflicted on the USA haters well tell me which side has recently been tearing up cities and disrupting the lives of millons of innocent peple? Cmon please tell me, which side? Who has conducted mass terror protest raids on pouplation centers in the past few years, terrorising and terryfing the people and destrying private property of innocent people of Seattle, Ottawa, Prague etc etc etc?

Dowding · « **Reply #34 on:** March 25, 2003, 05:46:15 AM »

So you equate the criminal activities of people in rioting to the posting of dissent and comical images on this BBS?

In that case, I continue to compare this hypothetical silencing of 'BBS dissenters' to the torture and murder of political prisoners in Iraq.

One stance makes as much sense as the other, to me; i.e. none at all.

Have Weazel and Blitz even jokingly talked about coming round to your neighbourhood and causing mayhem? Yet this thread started with the premise of 'who would you kill given the choice'.

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You guys consider disagreement and counterprotest as a form of facist silencing...

WTF? Even jokingly trying to decide who gets the bullet, isn't 'disagreement or counterprotest'. It's not debate. It's not argument. It's just pure stupidity. Fine if you take it as that, but hilarious if you try to make a serious point by it.

SaburoS · « **Reply #35 on:** March 25, 2003, 05:52:24 AM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Who the plow is tring to silence you people, unless of course you consider being called on your BS silencing? You guys consider disagreement and counterprotest as a form of facist silencing, its pretty clear and was made blatantly obvious in the dixe chicx boycott thread.

As for your concern about violence being inflicted on the USA haters well tell me which side has recently been tearing up cities and disrupting the lives of millons of innocent peple? Cmon please tell me, which side? Who has conducted mass terror protest raids on pouplation centers in the past few years, terrorising and terryfing the people and destrying private property of innocent people of Seattle, Ottawa, Prague etc etc etc?

Oh yes, you and those who disagreed with blix tolerated him quite well. Reminded me of sharks at a feeding frenzy. Just out of curiosity, how many of you wrote emails to HTC to protest his posts? What do you call as being "called" on an argument? Personal attacks and/or namecalling is/are your definition of a reasoned argument? Let's see here, your very response: "plow" (like that was really necessary to get your point across. You were "so clever" to even misspell it so it wouldn't get squelched

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"BS" gee, another label. Why doesn't that surprise me?
"USA haters" really? Maybe some love the USA so much they are willing to protest for what it really means to be an American. BTW, please show me just one of the peace protestors that say they hate the USA (don't confuse hating current administration policies as hating the country itself).
As to some of the violence and chaos from some of these protests, I don't agree with those methods personally (I've stated my stance previously).

I'll give you a simple comparison (and no, I am not comparing Bush to Hitler):
Who is the most patriotic and loves his country most of the following examples?
1) The German citizen that goosestepped in unison and followed Hitler's orders blindly?
2) The German that defied his orders?

Maybe things aren't exactly as you see them.

Mark Luper · « **Reply #36 on:** March 25, 2003, 05:55:35 AM »

As much as I dislike the views presented by the two individuals in question, this thread is in very poor taste in my humble opinion. Hang, I am dissapointed in ya bud. I had a higher regard for your opinions before this thread.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #37 on:** March 25, 2003, 05:56:42 AM »

I'm just asking him and perhaps other who have made the same comment about silencing dissent to prove their allegations and tell me why they do not infact consider counterprotest or disagreement to be silencing?

So who is silecing the anti war crowd?

How are they doing it?

Show me how this has been effective in silencing people on the left?

As for the vioence issues I think it stands pretty clear that on balance the anti-war, anti-bush, anti-capitalism croed has clearly commited more violence in their protests than the other side. Do you dispute that fact? And it doesnt really matter if they are small fringe minoroty because these are not random spontaneus acts of dissent, they are well organiozed, centrally planned and financed, centrally orchestrated worldwide even to the point synchronizing protest days. And unless the organizers are stupid they must know that there a violent members and yet they take no significant action to curtail them, why not? In any way they are responsible for the violnce and should be held liable as other incitors of willful civil terror like the KKK have been in the USA.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #38 on:** March 25, 2003, 05:57:38 AM »

How about you answer my question on who has been trying to silence you? Who has been trying to silence blix? Who has styopped him from speaking in the UN?

Stop trying to cjhange the subject and evade my question, ok?

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #39 on:** March 25, 2003, 06:03:05 AM »

Who is blidly goosetepping with bush? Why do you assume that the folks who agree with the war are blindly gooseteppin and have not made up their own minds that the war is the right thing to do?

On the other hand why do you assume that the anti-war crowd has in fact thought on their own?

Were the people who supported the 911 war in afhanistan blindly gossetepping to? Please dont forget there was a robust and vocal antiwar movement for that attack as well....

SirLoin · « **Reply #40 on:** March 25, 2003, 06:06:53 AM »

...The sound of where this thread belongs.

SaburoS · « **Reply #41 on:** March 25, 2003, 06:28:44 AM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
How about you answer my question on who has been trying to silence you? Who has been trying to silence blix? Who has styopped him from speaking in the UN?

Stop trying to cjhange the subject and evade my question, ok?

Sorry Grunherz I mispelled our blitz with blix. I meant blitz (yeah, it's 4 am and I'm tired.)

BTW you complain of my "changing the subject and evading questions"? Look in the mirror when you say that, LOL.

I've seen personal attacks as responses. Someone trying to silence me? Haven't really seen it. I have seen plenty of personal insults/attacks/etc against weazel and blitz (yes many wishing them to disappear and/or go away).

Now to top it all off I see a thread about the "having only one bullet, who to choose Blitz or weazel?" Joking or no, that is in extremely poor taste and can be interpreted as a threat against their lives (try telling that statement to a secret service agent but substitute Bush and Cheney with blitz and weazel and see how fast you're hauled off to jail (after a nice "interview"). Not very funny is it?

You want to have a personal comparison between your posts and mine on the profanity? Go search all of mine and see if you find any words that are filtered (or words that are misspelled to avoid the filter). You'll look long and hard before you give up on mine.
Because I try to show the person asking questions respect in a thoughtful, sometimes lenghty answer, I'll not answer some "loaded" questions especially when some of their responses amount to a total of about 30 seconds of thought and another minute of thought of what labels/profanity/personal attacks. I just don't have the time for it.
BTW most of my responses are my own thought, not cut and pastes by others. Am I always right? Nope.

Perhaps you re-read my posts above. Then you go read the "apology" thread from Blitz. look at this very thread and tell me it wasn't in poor taste against Blitz and weazel.

Now I have to get some sleep as it's way past my bed time.
Good night sir.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #42 on:** March 25, 2003, 07:00:25 AM »

This went way over the top folks.