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Offline funkedup

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« on: March 25, 2003, 01:09:39 PM »
You go into your favorite bar.
And a bunch of noisy protestors walk in and start chanting anti-war and anti-American slogans.  Some of them are joking and laughing about the deaths of American troops.  Others are gleefully discussing weapons Saddam can use against American troops.
Wouldn't you expect the bartender to ask them to leave?
If the bartender did nothing, would you continue to spend money in that bar?
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« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2003, 01:13:30 PM »
Imagine this:

Only popular opinions are allowed.  The United States of America does not care for any freedom of expression, only proscribed views are tolerated.

Is that the country you want, Funked?
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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2003, 01:13:53 PM »
I would start rolling skulls If i heard some one laffing at dead American SOLDIERS...


nO QUESTION.. I would beat there fuqing skulls in...slowly..

Im not letting my families sacrfices get shiit on..nor will i let soem other Americans..
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« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2003, 01:16:49 PM »
Fear drives this IMO:

"Imagine this:

Only popular opinions are allowed. The United States of America does not care for any freedom of expression, only proscribed views are tolerated.

Is that the country you want, Funked?"


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one has to draw the line somewhere.
Your view touts only the extremes.  

Unfortunately, the world isn't as black and white as you'd have us believe.  So... let every one in America say and do whatever they like?   I think not.

There has to be a consensus on acceptable behavior. not by the government, but by the people.
Otherwise why have laws, police, etc?
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« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2003, 01:17:11 PM »
Can you ever cross the line?...

Lets cheer on the Child Moletsers Chairboy..

YES..GO RAPE LITTLE GIRLS!!!!!!

Freedom of Speech YAAAAAA!


No..there is a line...see it or not...but you will be held responsible


So Cheering Dead Americans is alrigth huh?  Not in my airspace..beware...I will show you some freedom....freedom to kik ur ass:)  Legal or not..soem things I and most MANY of us will not except
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« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2003, 01:18:13 PM »
An then you wake up one day and say "What the heck was that? How come we got bombed all of a sudden!".

 Whether they right or wrong, they do not disappear if you refuse to listen to them. It pays to know what opposition thinks of only to be ready for them.

 Government and media are not likely to warn you untill it's too late, so shut your eyes at your peril.

P.S. Practically, I agree - a proprieetor can ban any speech. Here, tehy gave us an "ignore" button. Of you can just not read their posts. Unlike sound of a conversation, their typing does not affect you untill you choose to read it.

 miko
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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2003, 01:18:33 PM »
:D (BGBmaw)
« Last Edit: March 25, 2003, 01:20:41 PM by Wlfgng »
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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2003, 01:19:23 PM »
good point miko but what does that have to do with this thread ?

Freedom of speech?
Like I said, there are grey areas.
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« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2003, 01:20:58 PM »
BGBMAW, what does cheering on child molesters have to do with having different opinions on global policy?  Do you require clarification as to the difference between the two?
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« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2003, 01:22:24 PM »
Diggen around in the bottem of the tackle box funked?
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Re: Imagine
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2003, 01:24:29 PM »
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Originally posted by funkedup
You go into your favorite bar.
And a bunch of noisy protestors walk in and start chanting anti-war and anti-American slogans.  Some of them are joking and laughing about the deaths of American troops.  Others are gleefully discussing weapons Saddam can use against American troops.
Wouldn't you expect the bartender to ask them to leave?
If the bartender did nothing, would you continue to spend money in that bar?


funkedup

what are you doing in a gay bar? :) that be bout the only bar around here which would have an idjits you describe above
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« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2003, 01:27:10 PM »
I would spray boiling hot coffee into their eyes if they tried to interrupt my lunch/dinner.  But I do that to pretty much anyone who interrupts my lunch/dinner.
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« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2003, 01:27:37 PM »
i would ask them why they were protesting a war in a bar.
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« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2003, 01:27:52 PM »
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Imagine this:

Only popular opinions are allowed.  The United States of America does not care for any freedom of expression, only proscribed views are tolerated.

Is that the country you want, Funked?


So your position is only those voices of dissent should be heard?
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« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2003, 01:30:20 PM »
good point miko but what does that have to do with this thread?

 I would rather know what my adversaries think than not. Even if I have to tolerate some elevated blood pressure and white knuckles...

 I do browse some "enemy" sites but they "preach to the choire", so to speak. There are no discussions there and ideas are not presented for an "average" american. When those people come here with their views, I gain valuable insight.

 Funkedup should just consider it a working "undercover" as a spy in enemy territory. If we send a CIA operative to Baghdad and he listens to Hussein speak ill of america and slaps him in the face, would it be good? Not really.
 Keep your cool, use a chance to convert someone to our side, study their methods otherwise. You do not want to learn that there is a major influence in US when your child comes back from college all brainwashed with the new name like "Abdoul", waving the red flag and eating tofu. :)

 miko
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