why are troops always porked ?

[lord dolf vader]

just got done playin for a couple of hours. troops were down at most our bases contiuously ( no defending them wasent really a option as pleople log when strat is completly out of control. tried fighting it for a while but really its impossible. one or two guys in  1000 lb suicide runs were shutting down any attempt at a fight.  please change somthing so one kamikazi willing to pork run cant shut down a whole game basicly.


anyone give a good argument why suicide porkers should control the game ?

[Pooh21]

Makes them feel special, like they have skills or something. Just fly in ignore ack and bomb and strafe fuel down repeatedly. Then come back and do it again.

[eddiek]

......but in strategic terms, these guys, no matter how lame it appears, are being smart.
Pork the fuel, ordnance, and troops at an adjacent field, and you can conduct capture ops almost at will.  Your enemy cannot bomb your GV's, cause you took that away.  They cannot recapture the field you just took, cause they have no troops available.
And taking down your fuel severely limits your time in the air to defend, and sometimes prevents you from being able to fly over and help defend at another base.
Do I like it?  NO
Do I do it?  NO

But when you look at it, it is pretty much the way a RL war would be fought, no?  Deny the enemy the capability to fight back effectively, and you will obtain your goals.
I don't like it either, fellas, and I don't condone it cause I like lots of targets when I am in a base capture mission.  But it's gonna happen.
Question is, instead of getting angry, why don't you go pork THEIR field when you see a raid forming?  
It works both ways....................

[SKurj]

Another thing...   If your base is in a zone controlled by one of the opposing teams.. your strats will not rebuild (well they will but at such a slooooow rate)

So when you team is capturing fields ESPECIALLY in an enemy zone remind them not to pork barracks, and to pork as few strats as possible.  


SKurj

[MrLars]

IMO, killing troops and fuel at a field should be much more difficult.

The graphic representation of both in AH make it all too simple to limit both these resources. What airfield ever had all their troops < for that matter, what airfield ever housed a contengent of strike troops 24/7 > sleeping in their bunks 24/7 and all their fuel held in 3-5 above ground fuel dumps dispersed within the boundries of the airfield?

I know that this isn't a sim but rather an aircombat game but somethings in AH are just too simplified, IMO.

[empty]

The troops and ordinance vunerability represent the same level of realism as 10 guys running into town to capture it.

I haven't heard of too many RL airfield defenders, pilots that is, rushing out to their airplanes to defend it from enemy aircraft already there.  Usually they would exit to their bunkers and fox-holes and let the AAA guys do their thing. (Probably because they knew they'd be vulched...)

Putting troops into town, killing barracks or ordinance is symbolic and a demonstration of air-superiority.  After all, having air-superiority would mean you are denying the enemy the ability to freely operate in airspace you control.  If they get to the base, that condition wasn't met.

[MANDOBLE]

Solving all these strat problems is really easy, make all resources inmune until all field ack is down. These suiciders will need to deal with the ack before killing fuel, dar or troops.

[Kweassa]

Make it harder to kill,

 but not without bringing attrition as a factor.

[lord dolf vader]

its seems there is no one dissagreing.


the killing of troops is way to easy and is  being used to paralize the game. i.e. one kamikazi realy can win the war or at least grind it to a halt.


i think increasing the hardness is perhaps not the way to go in retrospect. i think resupply is the in place way to do it.

they knock um down reupply goon or m3 puts um back up.

thus you dont have 30 paying customers saying what are our options in the game and having one = WAIT

please pay some attention here htc

[ALF]

Perhaps in the future, the stategic role of bombers will be greater in this reguard.  Making specific targets for troops that have tons -o- ack and are very large and hard so that it takes 30k (or whatever) pounds of bombs to kill em all.  Right now it seems all to easy for a few (thats 1-4) enemy to take out all fuel and troops at a base.....then move on, effectively destroying the use of that base for an extended time.

[SKurj]

It doesn't take suicide attacks to drop your barracks...

Hardening the barracks won't work either.... (I use 1000lb eggs followed by rockets or guns)


I can drop all the barracks at any base (including town) (2 small, 3 medium, 2 large) with ack up and maybe get a fuel while i am at it...  With ack up... in a jabo...  and then fly home unless the defenders were smart...


Usually its a team scrambling to stay alive that porks barracks in an attempt to stem the flow...  Otherwise its your teammates on that last capture too eager to shoot stuff...


SKurj

[qts]

Well I'll disagree. It encourages team play. If you spot a field with low resources, why not hop to a nearby field and run supplies? I and a few others picked up a great many perks doing just that yesterday at A19/20 on the Scandinavia map and it enabled my fellow Bishes to hold off the onslaught.

And I for one actually enjoy going after the ground targets

[lord dolf vader]

so basicly i need to learn to pork bish bases.

not my style but will give it a try.

[LePaul]

LOL...well geez, war is hell...when you are making an advance, you weaken the enemies resources across the front line.  Umm, that's how an advance is made...

I'm not one to hit forward bases for gas or baracks...I do, however, strike front line Vehicle Hangars since many of the spawns are like 500 ft from our city.

[Red Tail 444]

Originally posted by lord dolf vader
so basicly i need to learn to pork bish bases.

not my style but will give it a try.

Seems to me that the only way to discourage ganging countries is to stymie their front line. Killing ammo, troops, and fuel is smart, and I advocate it. My squadron kept enemy forces at bay, for over three hours, a few months ago, simply by egging troops and ammo along their front until we got enough guys online to mount a counter offensive.

When low in numbers, going toe-to-toe never works. Hit the supply stores, the VHs, and troops. Perfect sense to me.

Gainsie

Gainsie