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Offline Jekyll

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« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2000, 03:58:00 AM »
Guys, just so there is no confusion.  This was NOT at the spawn point, in fact, it was about 3k from the spawn point V27-A7.

Approach airfield - one shot... DEAD
Respawn... approach airfield - one shot ... DEAD

And JoeMud... yes.
(Do you know something I don't?)  Reply via private email pls.

Offline Fishu

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« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2000, 04:40:00 AM »
I can easily kill tanks from beyond the numbers of sight in the panzer..
I would figure it is like 3.4-3.5k if not more that goes easy
hard to tell when those distance grids can get so much bigger after 3.2k.
It isn't any impossibility for others either...

Though, I think this is stupid, because already 1000 yards should be hard thing with these 75L48 cannons.
Also ricochets are somewhat rare from far range.. I see those more from toe to toe than +3k
Even if I am hitting the side of a tank. (so far 4 hits into a moving tank is my record, into its side so that it doesnt lose tracks even though hits are into the armor skirt, which should be penetrated and kill the tracks, if front armor can be penetrated from same distance on one shot)

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« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2000, 04:43:00 AM »
-RAM walks in, sees the subject of the thread and walks out-

Naaah...too much paranoic obsession  

I'd better be back to the Wb/AH thread  

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« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2000, 01:54:00 PM »
Armor damage model is basic at best. Don't expect the detail of the plane damage model, HTC has already said that it's not a high priority on the list they have right now.

If the Panzer no longer had a 75mm tracer shells it would fix alot of problems.

Other thing seems to be trajectory. The Pak 48 shot relatively flat out to 1800 yards (AP) and started to drop off alot after wards. HE had about 3/5th the range of AP, due to arcing trajectory.

As it now, the Pak 48 arcs earthward before the MG34! (btw the MG34 only has a 500 rpm rof in AH)

The AH terrain just isn't suited for tank battle (with air cover, it would be perfect without planes though)

The boccages of Europe led to seperate fire fights with visabilities of less then 200ft. Small tanks couldn't even make it through the hedges.

But they had lots of cover, and protection in forests, villages, etc were hardly far away.

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« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2000, 07:20:00 PM »
I never kill panzers with 1 shot, I kill alot of them too....
Maybe it has something to do with connection, Im not sure, the best I've managed is 2 shots to kill a panzer with typical being 3-5 (when in panzer myself of course firin AP)

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« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2000, 07:47:00 PM »
Accusing one's opponent of cheating is the highest compliment that can be paid in online sims.  WTG mystery tanker!

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« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2000, 04:44:00 PM »
Ok jek email sent...I hope it isnt who I think it is.

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« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2000, 06:26:00 PM »
ya funny how some 2 % in this game are like gods ,even to real pilots that have played the damb game since day one. people hack this game . the absence of proof is all the proof youi need when you think about it. someone shurly has yet not ever one official word. hi deflection shots with tank gun d 2.5 either god or hackin and i have seen that . hogs that have afterburners also pop up yet no ones ever caught. proof enough

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« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2000, 06:33:00 PM »
JoeMud.. reply sent .. it is.

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« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2000, 09:35:00 PM »
Ive been watching that guy ever since he first came in hes always been able to get the "edge"....cheats more than I did


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« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2000, 10:59:00 PM »
remember also the longer the range the more the shell ends up isn a downward trajectory and hits the top(weakest) part of your tank.
hazed.

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« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2000, 01:36:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by hazed-:
remember also the longer the range the more the shell ends up isn a downward trajectory and hits the top(weakest) part of your tank.
hazed.

Exactly. In real life, the type of long range shooting we do in AH would be called indirect fire.

Now in RL, you can't see the target because he's to far away (no uber optics). You have a spotter on the ground who direct you fire by the spotting shots by making a high shell arc.

In AH, the land is generally flat, and with the uber optics, you can spot yourself because there's no lack of depth at range (cloud of dust before, more arc, after, less arc, and the giant tracer, where as in RL you wouldn't have these aids)

Now since the AP shells have a crater, all this is possible. Presently, it could never really work as it does in RL, because a spotter and the shooter see totally different shell trajectories and hits.

There, are, however, plenty of accounts of tanks being used like this (as an artillary piece) albeit not on something like a single tank. They did, however, like to climb up on boccages and stone hedges to elevate the higher and shell armor coloums with a volly from a tank platoon, via HE shells.

The Tiger was, infact, notorious for this.

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« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2000, 02:13:00 AM »
A little history for you. Panther crews claimed a 90% hit rate out to 1,400 meters with AP shells. They also claimed a 72% hit rate from 1,600m out to 2,500m. Not bad for '43 era optics and guns. Got the above info from German Tanks of WWII.



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« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2000, 09:52:00 AM »
Ah yes and they got those hit % when shooting at the broad side of a barn.  

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« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2000, 10:01:00 AM »
Actually there are other ways for a tanker to very accurately judge distance.  It requires team work and is very simple.

Hint --> One teamate is not in a ground vehicle.

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