Author Topic: out of war discussions (Read 1606 times)

Toad · « **Reply #30 on:** March 28, 2003, 04:00:46 PM »

Blitz, your view is the problem in my view. You can excuse anything and sit on your hands while people are slaughtered. I can't remember your view on Kosovo if you ever posted them, but I'm willing to wager you opposed that too. No UN sanction, remember? Total violation of the NATO charter too when Clinton did intervene.

Sometimes, you have to make a stand. You can't. You can only equivocate.

Rude · « **Reply #31 on:** March 28, 2003, 04:02:26 PM »

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Originally posted by blitz
All i want to say with this line on my poster is, that i'm not blindeyed.

This said:It is not up to the US to rule this world, it's not yours!

Regards Blitz

America was threatened by Iraq in no way, it was just plain ridiculous, it's an "Angriffskrieg"

2 Million people was killed in Vietnam, 3 million injured. What for?

On 9-11 our world got alot smaller for Americans...get used to it.

A side note to all that is and has taken place on the worlds stage which I believe to be a good thing, is that now America knows who our allies truly are.

Toad · « **Reply #32 on:** March 28, 2003, 04:03:01 PM »

Saburo, my view of that has been liberally sprinkled through this forum.

In short, I'd say it was because the WW2 Generation, having seen their father's generation killed and gassed in a European war, having themselves had to fight a European war decided that THEIR sons were not going to have to do that again. I believe that's why the US totally shed it's isolationist role after WW2.

Feel free to differ.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #33 on:** March 28, 2003, 04:21:09 PM »

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Originally posted by blitz
I'm a carpenter, Meister , and i work in a projekt with struggeld young people.
They bashed up people, used drugs or dealt with it.

I try to help them find their way.

It's kinda hard some times, but i love it.

Today 2 of my boys good their "Gesellenbrief" for carpenters which means they passed 3 years successfully.

Hell, ya should have seen into their eyes

Regards Blitz

skuzzy, hard days for you in this war times.

I like to add, that I know you was in Vietnam and i want to say to you that i Don't want to hurt anyones feelings who fought there, i DON'tT blame the brave soldiers for what had happened there.

What type of construction do you do? Home, commercial?
I have helped buld a home or 2 in my lifetime.
Where I grew up, in south Texas, hurricanes we pretty normal. After a hurricane came through most homes would lose the roofs. So we would have roof parties and just start on the corner of one street and keep putting up shingles until everyone's house was 'out of the weather' again.
It's funny how the adversity of the hurricane, folks would band together.

Sounds like you are doing a good thing with that job .

You have a wife and/or kids? Local family close by?

blitz · « **Reply #34 on:** March 28, 2003, 05:15:37 PM »

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Originally posted by Rude
On 9-11 our world got alot smaller for Americans...get used to it.

A side note to all that is and has taken place on the worlds stage which I believe to be a good thing, is that now America knows who our allies truly are.

Was different on 11/9 , rude.

Was very big support around the world. Germany helped u with special forces and ships, don't ya forget!

This time US government spit on everyone with a different opinion in advance. "We go to war with Iraq, with Un support or without it".

It's not the good old days

Regards Blitz

Blitz

America was threatened by Iraq in no way, it was just plain ridiculous, it's an "Angriffskrieg"

2 Million people was killed in Vietnam, 3 million injured. What for?

blitz · « **Reply #35 on:** March 28, 2003, 05:33:31 PM »

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Originally posted by Skuzzy
What type of construction do you do? Home, commercial?
I have helped buld a home or 2 in my lifetime.
Where I grew up, in south Texas, hurricanes we pretty normal. After a hurricane came through most homes would lose the roofs. So we would have roof parties and just start on the corner of one street and keep putting up shingles until everyone's house was 'out of the weather' again.
It's funny how the adversity of the hurricane, folks would band together.

Sounds like you are doing a good thing with that job .

You have a wife and/or kids? Local family close by?

I'm a Moebeltischler mostly, which means furniture.

Worked in Berlin opera once.
After the first day the responsible guy told me: "Dude, ya too accurate, first visitors sitting 20 meters away"

Nah, no wife, but living with a very good female friend for 20 years now, she's my best friend and she my worst opponent when it deales with cleaning the rooms.

Kids? 14. I'm their father, mother, friend (seldom), satan (normaly)

My girlfriend is from east Berlin, doesn't know much about politics, tho, just communist propaganda in some way, mostly.

My mother and sisters still next to the netherland border.

Father joined german forces in Russia and learned something about. He refused to buy me my cowboy outfit when i was 6, bann him . God bless his soul

Regards Blitz

BGBMAW · « **Reply #36 on:** March 28, 2003, 05:38:57 PM »

Blitz says...

"Germany was in no way a threat to anyone..anywhere"

BGBMAW · « **Reply #37 on:** March 28, 2003, 05:39:45 PM »

Blitz says

"There was no holocaust"

N1kPaz · « **Reply #38 on:** March 28, 2003, 05:45:46 PM »

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Originally posted by blitz
All i want to say with this line on my poster is, that i'm not blindeyed.

This said:It is not up to the US to rule this world, it's not yours!

Regards Blitz

America was threatened by Iraq in no way, it was just plain ridiculous, it's an "Angriffskrieg"

2 Million people was killed in Vietnam, 3 million injured. What for?

To try to slow the spread of communism.

Honestly Blitz. Why are you in favor of leaving an Evil Sadistic Bastard like Sadam in power for another day or a month or a year. You anti-war people squeak about wanting to save the iraqi people from war. well what about the people he slaughters? is it fair to leave people under the rule of someone who is totally self centered and cares about his people only in what they can do for him, or how he can use them to save his own ass.

I cannot believe decent countries actually support leaving someone so evil in power. you guys dont give a crap about human rights, or freedom...you care only about yourselves. Believe me Blitz...the oppressed people of the world know better than to look to Germany or France for their assistance.

They know it would be a waste of time!

Dowding · « **Reply #39 on:** March 28, 2003, 05:46:30 PM »

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As I've said before, it seems that in our "modern" world many folks have lost the ability to distinguish the difference between good and evil.

The question is: even if we had that ability in the first place, since when has it mattered? History is a charnel house of bloody carnage and misery, inflicted by mankind on mankind.

With the passing of every century, the encumbant generation regards the previous as uncivilised. That is a consistent pattern, with only a few blips. I don't expect it to change anytime soon. One day, the planet's pupulation will reach critical mass and it will be the end, but I think that is still a good distance off. I'll be pushing up daisies long before sun-up on that day...

... I hope.

Steve · « **Reply #40 on:** March 28, 2003, 05:46:32 PM »

Gscholz,. get a clue. buy a clue.. if you cannot afford a clue, I will have one appointed for you. The only person who has created any kind of shortage of food/medicine for the Iraqi people is Saddam... not any imagined embargo. Saddam had the ability to buy food and medicine for his people. He chose instead to build palaces and hoarde the money for himself. If you blame one the loss of one life in Iraq on anyone but Saddam, you are a fool. Retract your statement, it's making you look like an uninformed love muffin.

Toad · « **Reply #41 on:** March 28, 2003, 05:59:58 PM »

Well, Dowding, I think we had a good running start at it post-WW2 for sure.

Even now, you, if forced to choose, based on morality, right now to enlist in support of either Iraq or the Coalition would pick?

If it came down to fighting to keep Saddam in power or joining the battle to remove him, what would you do?

In your heart, you know.

blitz · « **Reply #42 on:** March 28, 2003, 06:06:30 PM »

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Originally posted by Steve
Gscholz,. get a clue. buy a clue.. if you cannot afford a clue, I will have one appointed for you. The only person who has created any kind of shortage of food/medicine for the Iraqi people is Saddam... not any imagined embargo. Saddam had the ability to buy food and medicine for his people. He chose instead to build palaces and hoarde the money for himself. If you blame one the loss of one life in Iraq on anyone but Saddam, you are a fool. Retract your statement, it's making you look like an uninformed love muffin.

And i thought there was an embargo.

Regards Blitz

America was threatened by Iraq in no way, it was just plain ridiculous, it's an "Angriffskrieg"

2 Million people was killed in Vietnam, 3 million injured. What for?

Steve · « **Reply #43 on:** March 28, 2003, 06:08:12 PM »

Gscholz, nice catch, but you didn't mention a damned thing about perception in your first post..... nice try, moron.

Gscholz quote: If you think you can drive a tank column into Baghdad and be greeted as liberators you are gravely mistaken.

Tell me, how the **** do you know?

BGBMAW · « **Reply #44 on:** March 28, 2003, 06:10:48 PM »

Blitz says

"Germany in no way harmed anyone..ever"

"There was never a holocuast...ever"