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Offline Spitboy

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« Reply #30 on: October 19, 2000, 11:49:00 PM »
Geez, is that really Pars?

Heya Nash - check yer email, you FW-stalling spin dweeb <g>  

MacAW was a lot like the old DOS AW days, at least according to the DOSAW vets like Bull, Fool, Fogy, etc., who flew with us in the old days (circa 1995-1996 for the open net beta of MacAW.) MacAW was really nothing more than DOSAW, even though at the start the idea was to make it the Mac version of AW4W. It never really got past DOSAW's last incarnation in features.

The community was tiny and tight knit. Everyone knew EVERYONE, and their fighting styles. Squad were tight knit - many survive to this day even without a real game to base themselves around. And of course, Voss from Kesmai disabled all the Relaxed Realism, so we all flew FR in those days - something very different from AW4W and it's hordes of RR folks at the time. It was a great time - I must have spent 25 hours a week flying and bullchitting in there through 1995. Haven't been able to get that same feeling out of any sim since.

I think it, like DOSAW, was a combination of a small, tight-knit community of folks who were distintinctly interested in A2A combat on the personal level. There seemed to be a much higher degree of respect - like someone said up thread, if two people were going at it in a good fight, it was unthinkable to dive in on them. Any newbies quickly learned the code, and adopted it. It was really community in action.

I think once you pass a certain level of size, the emphasis shifts from the overall community to *segments* of the community, and that does a lot to remove the overall cohesion folks felt about MacAW and DOSAW in their day.

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Offline Maverick

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« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2000, 11:51:00 PM »
 
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Who still has the AW DOS software?

(raises hand)

Only CYAC came close to AWDOS    


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« Reply #32 on: October 20, 2000, 06:44:00 AM »
I raise  middle finger to aw dos players! Why?

After 41/2 years of aw2 and 3 i killed them all ,many times.
They all screamed like babies. They all took a superior attitude. Even though they sucked.

We were here first!

We are superior!

Gee i rember when ....then would come when i played the real aw. LOL the aw dos etc.

The golden age of flight sims is now.
Ah Plus 4 other titles due to come out.

A larger group of players, better players at that.

EYE

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« Reply #33 on: October 20, 2000, 06:50:00 AM »
Hey Nash-

I did play dosAW for a brief time before they pulled the plug, but you are correct- the guys I mentioned were, of course, mostly macAW types.  I forgot, BTW, to mention Usul, who I believe played dosAW for some time as well.  Pay attention to spit's email and come on by for a chat!

dog

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« Reply #34 on: October 20, 2000, 07:20:00 AM »
Salute edog and Spitboy!!!!!!!

Those were the days!

I am very flattered that you remember my name!

Do any of you hang around WB any more?  I sadly cant fly AH because im on a Mac.

I would love to get in touch!

My Email:

julio.batista@retemail.es


Lephturn, thanks for the info, Trips was a very important man for me in those days...

Incidentally, a clear and important advantage of those days over these is that I NEVER read things like "raising a middle finger" to me because of something I or anybody else had said.

Cheers

figaro, parsifal, pars!


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« Reply #35 on: October 20, 2000, 08:41:00 AM »
Never played AW DOS, my first sim was Warbirds. Version 2.6, and I thought it was the best darn thing since sliced bread. Only played offline, against the TIE fighters. Got online once with a free account during "The GREAT arena bug hunt" for about 4 hours. First kill was an Me-262 coming head-on against my 190A8. Nice fireball those 262s make.

When I first saw Aces High I looked at the screen shots and damn near fainted. Here is a game that's better than Warbirds will EVER be! Although I did think whoever did the cockpit reference shot had the art talent of a 3rd Grader. When BETA hit, and I found out, I ran here as fast as my 56k modem would let me. Dloaded the BETA [.40 as I recall] and went at it. Got my first kill on my 5th or 6th time logging in. Enemy Bf-109 in a perfect bounce.

Now AH is getting better. After reading alot about the Me-262 I went and dloaded Warbirds again just to fly it. Although I still think nearly 40 megs is TOO BIG for anyone to download.

Not bad for being a 22 year-old computer/WW2 aircraft geek, huh?




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« Reply #36 on: October 20, 2000, 02:43:00 PM »
Eye....

I believe you have missed the point of my original post. I was not interested in hearing about the bad times...only from those who remembered AWDOS in the way that I expressed it.

Maybe you can clear this up for me....did you play AWDOS, and do you remember it as a good thing, or did you just want to post your opinion of those that used to play it?

Ice

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« Reply #37 on: October 20, 2000, 03:17:00 PM »
Oh my gosh....."halftime arena", haven't heard that in a Looooonnngggg time...but to answer the main question....was the human opponent aspect that attracted me the most. That I could play against humans while "simulating" flying an aircraft was too much to resist.

RAS

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« Reply #38 on: October 20, 2000, 07:18:00 PM »
Jigster~


I still have AirWarrior 1.5....Got it when I was 16 and it was my first computer game of any kind.

That interface is sooooo bad by modern standards, almost totally text-based.

I love that game!

J_A_B

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« Reply #39 on: October 20, 2000, 07:33:00 PM »
Ice...

Remember  Cactus.org.. this was the FTP site for all our AW DOS downloads. Check this link out
 http://www.cactus.org/AirWarrior/InternetBX/FileSection/PCInstall.html

Ill try accessing the FTP server when i get home, see whats left on her.

Dog out....

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« Reply #40 on: October 20, 2000, 07:58:00 PM »
Hehe, I feel the waves of nostalgia washing over me here  . I read about AW way back when, could even get it for my Amiga, but there was no such thing as an online service, much less internet connections, in Sweden at the time. Then when I moved to the US for a while and could finally try AW I was in heaven. At least for about 5 minutes until Tex cleaned my clock over the central sea, and I was hooked for life  .

Ahh, the spin-reversing 190's, the magical dweebfires, P-51's with instant turn rates like zeroes as long as you lowered one notch of flaps (and got the kill in half a turn, or you were dead meat  . Even the great, lumbering target drone P-47's. I flew with the DIKtators as Karl XII, don't remember my player number anymore though.

Couldn't connect to AW from Sweden when I went back, so I switched to WB (I'd tried out the CK beta as Opus for a couple of days), became Rickenbacker (as I'm known everywhere else on the net) and never looked back. When AH came out I hadn't played WB for a while due to the high price, so it was right up my alley, and here I am  .

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« Reply #41 on: October 21, 2000, 12:53:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by Wardog:
Ice...

Remember  Cactus.org.. this was the FTP site for all our AW DOS downloads. Check this link out  
 http://www.cactus.org/AirWarrior/InternetBX/FileSection/PCInstall.html

Ill try accessing the FTP server when i get home, see whats left on her.

Dog out....

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    What you have downloaded is the IBM PC and compatibles front end for
Air Warrior.  Requirements to run this program are:

             1) 386/25 or better.

             2) 4 Meg of RAM - 3.5 Meg free.

             3) Video card capable of 640x480 resolution in 256 colors.

             4) Hard disk with at least 7 meg free.

             5) A mouse or joystick - joystick recommended.


           


Ahh the good ol days.

The link for v1.20 is there, but it's dead.

I have the disk set and the v1.6 AW CD that came with a DOS flight sim grab bag...the first time I ever got all the plane art!  

If I remember right I was oogling over Fighter Duel at the time. It was the first game with realistic (hehe) overcast layers!

- Jig



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« Reply #42 on: October 21, 2000, 01:35:00 AM »
"Fighter Duel"

LOL. My boss bought that when it came out. He loaded it up on his machine... flew it off line for a month; got 'good' on the AI and then installed it on the company network. We got NO work done.. from 9 to 5 fer about 2 weeks. I kicked his ass... no mercy.

One morning; it had vanished from the network.. and AFAIK he hasn't touched a combat sim; boxed or otherwise, since.

Puppy.  

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« Reply #43 on: October 21, 2000, 08:52:00 AM »
I think the people made AWDOS I still remember my first Kill in AW..He is my Wingman now. Yes it was HiTech and very shortly there after we both Joined the Gunfighters and made it a point to piss off Fencer (I know some of you remember Him)
I also remember HT saying "Hell I could write better Code than this" Just look at where we are today.


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« Reply #44 on: October 21, 2000, 09:54:00 AM »
WD...

What a trip....I had forgot all about cactus.org

I need to stop thinking about AWDOS, I'm beginning to miss it too much, or at least the fun of it.

Maybe HTC will figure out the ingredient for bringing back that long lost feeling....I suspect it is something relatively simple and would have nothing to do with the latest greatest terrain or FM etc.

I'm Out!

Ice