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« on: March 29, 2003, 01:23:55 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2003, 02:57:24 PM »
Oh My! that is sweet work!
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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2003, 04:19:13 PM »
realy nice ! building now a Do 335 and seems it will take some 3 months more to look same :)

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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2003, 05:52:58 AM »
wow! very good work!

How do you make weathering on a model anyway?

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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2003, 09:47:30 AM »
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wow! very good work!

How do you make weathering on a model anyway?


Typically with silver paint dry brushed on in multple, slowly built up layers and earth tone pastels (for dirt an soot).

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« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2003, 02:48:23 PM »
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Originally posted by frank3
wow! very good work!

How do you make weathering on a model anyway?


Here is what I do, I'm currently working on a F4U-1A so I'll use that as an example. (sorry no pics, will gladly accept a digital camera ;))
-It's a judgement call when to start painting, on my hog I painted the cockpit pieces seperately then assembled.
-Then I assembled the fuse and wings, painted the engine components and assembled into the fuse.
-Taped the cockpit, stuffed engine openings, gear bays etc. with foam cut to shape or tissue.
-Sprayed 'Aluminum' over the entire model (2 coats)
-Sprayed 'Future floor polish' over the aluminum colored airframe (2 coats) the acrylic finish of 'Future' will protect the Aluminum coat from bonding with future color coats and protect it from sanding.
-Sprayed 'Sea Blue' on the airframe (2 coats) its like Navy blue only a tad lighter. (not doing the 3 colored option, the model is too small. I have a larger version that will be getting a similar paint job as the -1 in AH with the airbrush)
-Used a very very fine sandpaper to reveal the Aluminum coat on raised surfaces, and some leading edges like wings, engine cowling, horiz/vert stab. (gotta be cautious not to overdue it though)
-Used a wooden toothpick to scratch out the blue from some panel lines and along the edges of some of the panels.
-My next step will be another coat of 'Future floor polish' and then a flat-black "wash" for the panel lines and other recessed areas. Usually 1 part paint, 3 parts water (I use water based acrylics).

I do roughly the same for the indivdual parts I've yet to assemble like the gear

I missed doing these affects on the prop though I may be able to salvage it. (got ahead of myself)

When I'm done I'll get a finished picture and post it.

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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2003, 08:34:37 AM »
I'm glad you posted that info about weathering the Corsair.  

I took advantage of http://www.modelexpo-online.com clearing out their Airfix and Heller 1/48 kits and picked up a couple of Corsair kits (British F4U-1A and USMC AU-1).  I'm building the AU-1 first (which is just a different designation for the F4U-4 in Korea) and started with a coat of interior green over the weekend.  The kit itself is pretty basic and simple - certainly not going to be confused for a Tamiya or Hasagawa kit - but it was cheap so if I botch it up I'm not too concerned about it.  I'm going to give your weathering tips a shot and see if I can do it.  I have an airbrush but haven't ever used it (got it very used and missing a compressor).

Do you dilute the Future floorpolish or take straight out of the bottle?  I'm going to be brush painting - will I be risking brush marks or does Future level itself out pretty well?

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« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2003, 08:53:46 AM »
not sure on what type of effect you'll get by brushing on the Future....It may gather in the recessed areas due to the nature of brushing. I'm not speaking from experience though as I've  never tried to brush it on.

What I would suggest is stopping by a local hobbie store and picking up a Testors multi-purpose sprayer and a can of propellant. The sprayer is relatively cheap and is good enough (in my experience) for this sort of task. http://www.testors.com/catalog_item.asp?itemNbr=2207
I've also seen them at Wal-Mart in the Toy section with the model stuff.


I used the Future straight outta the bottle, it's almost like water so it sprays nicely.

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« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2003, 03:52:36 AM »
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Originally posted by AcId
Here is what I do, I'm currently working on a F4U-1A so I'll use that as an example. (sorry no pics, will gladly accept a digital camera ;))
-It's a judgement call when to start painting, on my hog I painted the cockpit pieces seperately then assembled.
-Then I assembled the fuse and wings, painted the engine components and assembled into the fuse.
-Taped the cockpit, stuffed engine openings, gear bays etc. with foam cut to shape or tissue.
-Sprayed 'Aluminum' over the entire model (2 coats)
-Sprayed 'Future floor polish' over the aluminum colored airframe (2 coats) the acrylic finish of 'Future' will protect the Aluminum coat from bonding with future color coats and protect it from sanding.
-Sprayed 'Sea Blue' on the airframe (2 coats) its like Navy blue only a tad lighter. (not doing the 3 colored option, the model is too small. I have a larger version that will be getting a similar paint job as the -1 in AH with the airbrush)
-Used a very very fine sandpaper to reveal the Aluminum coat on raised surfaces, and some leading edges like wings, engine cowling, horiz/vert stab. (gotta be cautious not to overdue it though)
-Used a wooden toothpick to scratch out the blue from some panel lines and along the edges of some of the panels.
-My next step will be another coat of 'Future floor polish' and then a flat-black "wash" for the panel lines and other recessed areas. Usually 1 part paint, 3 parts water (I use water based acrylics).

I do roughly the same for the indivdual parts I've yet to assemble like the gear

I missed doing these affects on the prop though I may be able to salvage it. (got ahead of myself)

When I'm done I'll get a finished picture and post it.



tnx Acid, I'll try it someday when I got a new model.
currently working on a B-17G and a P47N

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« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2003, 11:04:23 AM »
Damn....Sunchaser needs to get in this thread.  He has some real nice models that he has weathered and damaged.  I wish he would stop in and post some pics of the stuff he has.  If anybody sees him over in IL-2, tell him to stop by and share some pics with us here at AH.

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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2003, 08:16:01 AM »
That would be excellent sling, the more tips & tricks the better. It's always nice to pick up ideas.

That bit i said in my original post about the wash being 1 to 3 in paint & water....it's more like 1 to 6. I use 1 part paint and usually 2-3 parts airbrush thinner when painting normal coats of color, I got mixed up.
« Last Edit: April 07, 2003, 08:18:40 AM by AcId »

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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2003, 08:35:13 AM »
Unfortunately Acid....I dont have any way of contacting Sunchaser.  I dont play IL-2 and he doesnt play AH anymore.  So, if somebody out there who plays IL-2 and knows Sunchaser can ask him to stop by here and show us some pics, that would be awesome.

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« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2003, 05:02:00 PM »
Well, seeing as how we're posting pictures....:)

A Tiffy I finished recently....


There's a couple more shots over in AGWs modelling forum.

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« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2003, 06:39:08 PM »
Very nice aircav!  What did you use to photograph the model?  I just completed 1/32 hurri and finished it as Douglas Baders plane.  I photo'd it with a cheap disposable camera and got what I payed for.

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« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2003, 06:41:29 PM »
GOFAST

If you have an old inner tube that will hold air. you can use this in place of a compressor just attach the airbrush line to the valve stem of the inner tube.
works good when inflated to 30 pounds and is cheap until you can get a good compressor.

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