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Offline Midnight

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« on: March 29, 2001, 09:04:00 PM »
What is up with dweebs rolling B26s from BH to drop bombs on the field while they roll past M3s at the map room?

That is the most dweeb like tactic I have EVER seen in this game.

Bombers should not be able to drop bombs while on the ground. If they do, they should not explode because fuses would not have been set so fast.

Lamers and Dweebs came up with this tactic.

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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2001, 10:11:00 PM »
I have to agree with this one. I am seeing to many buffs head to maproom for troop defence and drop ordinance just to respawn and do it again. Granted the bomber hanger should be taken down but this tactic is gaming and has the same effect as the ack buff on the runway before they nuetered it on the ground. HTC please consider making the buffs get 100 ft or so before they can drop. Just my opinion.

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Offline Raubvogel

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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2001, 10:45:00 PM »
Similar thread in the Gameplay forum right now. Gaming the game or not, it isn't accurate and should be fixed. There were safeties that prevented it in real life, it should be modeled as so.

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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2001, 11:27:00 PM »
Yes, it's gaming and should be fixed, but in the meantime...

Very few seem to realize you do not need to take down the bomber hangar.  You simply need about 100 rounds to take down the ammo bunkers, and bombers will not be able to load bombs.

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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2001, 11:40:00 PM »
It's crap.  This kind of behavior doesn't belong in a WW2 sim.  Since getting rid of the morons who do it is not good for business, HTC should take another route and disable all weapons when the aircraft has weight on the wheels.

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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2001, 11:56:00 PM »
You're right Fatty, and we know that. Degrading a field to take it is an exercise in futility. too. The 13th simply isn't that big (given the 51 only status). Midnight got killed by a car bomber, I killed 4 buffs while trying to deliver troops. The buffs didn't get me, but they bought enough time for one of those dweeb Chogs to get me. The last car bomber killed the F4 and himself anyway (I think). Two trucks right on top of the map room and we failed.  

I had a blast! But, I think this should be fixed.

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Offline Goner

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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2001, 02:09:00 AM »
> Lamers and Dweebs came up with this tactic.

LOL !! well, there goes the theory - i won't mention names ;-) - that $30 keeps out the morons ....   <eg>

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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2001, 03:45:00 AM »
Did it once yesterday to goof off, but wasn't so fun even for me, esp thinking in the other guy's shoes.

So upped in TBM, with rockets, but even with only a few feet off the ground, it seems out of place in such a community.

Won't do it again.

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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2001, 07:38:00 AM »
I really don't understand the problem, niether the bomb blast nor the availability.

1) Kill the BH, it's that simple.

2) Have respect for highly explosive ground targets. Wiat untill we get trains. If it's modelled well, blowing up a locomotive will send debris upto 1000 meters into the air. The same goes for the V1. Most Tempest that suffered damage on that mission were hit by debris.

you're just not doing the job properly, nor thinking about what you're doing.

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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2001, 08:37:00 AM »
you just hate bombers.  you are trying to get rid of bombers in the game.  
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« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2001, 11:02:00 AM »
You always sound so positive, lazs!

If we had pulled off an *absolutely* perfect strike,... Well, we wouldn't be talking about this.  

I don't think you can use the safety feature as an argument. Do we need a safety feature that will not arm bombs, until the bomber in question is above and outside the blast area? That would be measured above launch alt (SL + field alt + blast area), so if you were on a gradient you could still car bomb a higher point, but dropping down to car bomb a PT boat would not work. This would also make it impossible to ack-tuck (lob) the TG from a buff, but what about fighters?
Lock the bomb bay? A lot of these buffs had the crew board through the bomb bay. Still, it's a goofy tactic. I might use it if I were momentarily blinded by online rage, but, only because the game allows it. After that I would regret having done it.  

How about making the field *suffer* from friendly eggs near the map room? Hey, I like that! Maybe degrade command integrity?  

HT, if you could *make* these guys run to their planes, in order to launch, that would be sweet, man! Give us a chance to change their minds.  

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« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2001, 11:18:00 AM »
seeker... realistic bomb damage?  you just hate bombers.. you are trying to get bombers out of the game.
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« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2001, 11:32:00 AM »
Lazs, desist, you're not helping yourself.

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« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2001, 11:46:00 AM »
One way this issue can be looked at is people just want the bases in AH to be even MORE pathetically easy to capture.

"Carbombing" is a last-ditch tactic by a country that is beaten down.  Since it is sometimes effective, people want it removed.

They claim it is "for realism".   That's a lie; don't believe it.  If they wanted REALISM, they would want to do away with AH's base capture system.  Airforces didn't capture bases; armies did.  A few bombs on a hangar wouldn't shut down an airfield.  An enemy tank couldn't just drive right up next to an airfield, either.  

If you get rid of the "Carbombing", then add AI or player-controlled defensive infantry, conplete with machineguns, bazookas, mortars, and grenades.  Instead of your tank being destroyed by a
carbomber", watch it get destroyed by a guy with a bazooka.

Base capture in AH is already pathetically easy.  What need is there to make it easier?

BTW I have never carbombed.

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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2001, 08:12:00 PM »
Carbombing? It seems that we went even farther in this tour.... NOw I see A lot of bombers droping all their eggs in hope to get kill of a vulchers that CAPing this field. Huge Lanc appears on runway and 3-4 fighters drop on him and there goes BOOOM not because he got killed but because he droped 14k of bombs....  
Not that I ever died this cheesy way, but I seen a lot of pilots did.... Why after patch 2 buffs still being able to drop their eggs on runway?????

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