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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2003, 12:04:57 PM »
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Saturday, March 29, 2003; 5:33 PM



WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld repeatedly rejected advice from Pentagon planners that substantially more troops and armor would be needed to fight a war in Iraq, New Yorker Magazine reported.

In an article for its April 7 edition, which goes on sale on Monday, the weekly said Rumsfeld insisted at least six times in the run-up to the conflict that the proposed number of ground troops be sharply reduced and got his way.

"He thought he knew better. He was the decision-maker at every turn," the article quoted an unidentified senior Pentagon planner as saying. "This is the mess Rummy put himself in because he didn't want a heavy footprint on the ground."

It also said Rumsfeld had overruled advice from war commander Gen. Tommy Franks to delay the invasion until troops denied access through Turkey could be brought in by another route and miscalculated the level of Iraqi resistance.

"They've got no resources. He was so focused on proving his point -- that the Iraqis were going to fall apart," the article, by veteran journalist Seymour Hersh, cited an unnamed former high-level intelligence official as saying.

A spokesman at the Pentagon declined to comment on the article.

Rumsfeld is known to have a difficult relationship with the Army's upper echelons while he commands strong loyalty from U.S. special operations forces, a key component in the war.

He has insisted the invasion has made good progress since it was launched 10 days ago, with some ground troops 50 miles from the capital, despite unexpected guerrilla-style attacks on long supply lines from Kuwait.

Hersh, however, quoted the former intelligence official as saying the war was now a stalemate.

Much of the supply of Tomahawk cruise missiles has been expended, aircraft carriers were going to run out of precision guided bombs and there were serious maintenance problems with tanks, armored vehicles and other equipment, the article said.

"The only hope is that they can hold out until reinforcements arrive," the former official said.

The article quoted the senior planner as saying Rumsfeld had wanted to "do the war on the cheap" and believed that precision bombing would bring victory.

Some 125,000 U.S. and British troops are now in Iraq. U.S. officials on Thursday said they planned to bring in another 100,000 U.S. soldiers by the end of April.

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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2003, 12:15:02 PM »
bogus. denied by Franks, Rummy the Dummy and the Pentagon.

seems to me the wars going just fine.
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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2003, 01:00:10 PM »
wars should be run by the military, i don't like civilians running wars, remindes me of the LBJ/MacNamara screw up in nam.

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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2003, 01:27:34 PM »
The politics of war are just as fascinating as the war itself.
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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2003, 01:28:17 PM »
franks did two nam tours. highly respected by his men. he's no remf. if rummy the dummy trys to screwover the war effort, tommy will retarget a tomahawk.
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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2003, 01:45:55 PM »
if there are any left after rummy hits all the tv station/markets in the middle east.

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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2003, 02:35:30 PM »
Let's get 'em ;-)


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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2003, 02:38:34 PM »
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Originally posted by lord dolf vader
if there are any left after rummy hits all the tv station/markets in the middle east.


18 times each...

I hope they're bombing some valid targets over there...  2 bombs and 40 missles on one target seem like a little bit of overkill to me.

I dunno why they arent running ATG sorties 24 hours a day against RG units.

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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2003, 03:12:31 PM »
Hey, Towd.. did Rummy buy the cruise missiles you told us cost $5 million each?

Or did he buy the ones that currently cost $500,000 each according to FAS?
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« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2003, 07:11:11 PM »
the newest generation they have yet to in service ?

or the ones they are using at 1.8 a piece

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« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2003, 08:16:48 PM »
Washington Post is to the left what Weekly Standard is to the right, no wonder you enjoy it so much LDV.

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« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2003, 08:20:26 PM »
As usuall, a poorly informed person posts some poor information from a poor news source (read..RAG).
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« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2003, 08:56:29 PM »
shesh it came from fark.com


still pissed about watergate or what ?

washingtonpost  has ended more than a few republican crooks careers no ?

 shure that has nothing to do with it tho :).

and reuters aint a paper its a wire service, as such the story will be in hundreds of tv stations and local papers tommorow. not like its the nation or anything lol.

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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2003, 09:43:24 PM »
The post is the 5th largest paper in the US... Rummy and the boys in the Whitehouse ALL have subscriptions to it as it is THE Washington "rag".... no matter how much anyone tries to marginalize so called leftist liberal media.

But no... the story that Rumsfeld is tinkering with war strategy is such a whacko crazy idea that only the communist papers would suggest such a thing. :)