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Offline gofaster

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What planes do you absolutely hate?
« on: March 31, 2003, 02:55:18 PM »
I absolutely detest:

(a) N1K2s.  I hate them.  I hate to fly them.  I hate to fly against them.  The N1k2 turns a good quality flight sim into a video arcade.  I laugh when I see "SoAndSo landed 6 kills in a N1K2."  They should be so proud.

(b) Typhoons.  I hate them.  I hate the way they always come in with rockets and pork fuel and vehicle hangars and generally make a nuisance of themselves.  They make base attacks a lop-sided affair moreso than they already are.  The offense in a strategy game always has the advantage and the Typhoon simply makes that advantage so much more pronounced.  I also hate the way so many Typhoon pilots simply run away from a fight if you can find one that's not over your head.

(c) LA-7s.  I hate them as offensive weapons.  Specifically, I hate the way pilots will bring an LA-7 to an enemy airbase behind a raid.  Don't they know that LA-7s are designed for intercepting incoming raids?  If someone is doing a base capture mission, some dope who didn't join the mission briefing will always bring along his little LA-7 because he's too much of a nancy boy to fly a real plane, like a heavy P-38, Me110, Mosquito, or P-47, and help prep the base for capture.   And you know he'll hang back and wait for the jabo guys to level the ack before he goes in for easy kills.  If you're going to simply try to stab some guy in the back, at least bring a plane that gives a level playing field to your opponent, like a 109.

For me, these 3 planes really reduce the playing quality of the game.

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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2003, 03:36:05 PM »
Only the one i did'nt see :D


But you want to talk cheeze i got a kill once with 2 rounds of hispano hehe

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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2003, 03:44:06 PM »
#1.  This is most undeniably a whine fest disguised as a survey.

#2.  Being in an IJ squad, I fly the N1K a lot along with the A6M5b, so am I supposed to apologize for this?  N1K's, which are the best IJ ride, are laughably easy to kill in the MA by more nimble spits and hurricanes or by the more popular late war speed rides like P51's, 190's and most 109's.   Not to mention your La7's and Tippis.  If you're flying one of these and you get nailed by Mr. Nik, then you screwed up.

#3.  If you don't like the profligate useage of La7's or Typhoons, go to the CT where the rides are restricted.

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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2003, 03:47:54 PM »
1) Tiffie is a always a tough match.
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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2003, 03:48:41 PM »
Having been away for 6-7 months and then come back my view is probably a bit different. I have a lot of problems with all three planes you mentioned but for different reasons:

1) the hi nikki cherry picker

He sits up there at 20k over his own base and waits for incoming attackers...never tries to break up the attacks or clear his own guys six...but is always there to finish you off after a great fight with 3-4 of his team mates.

2) the Tiffie "buzzbomber"....

The 7500 ft 425 ias tiffie that screams back and forth thru the furball...your base or his...selectively spraying 20mm as he works his way thru...almost always a squad guy with good coordination and/or a wingie. If you ever get near him you've got bout 5 sec till someone is screaming down you 6

3) the la-7 "pack"...single la-7's are always ok...yes they can be tough to fight but the plane has its limitations. But they seem to show up in flocks...often all three pilots are "soso" at best but you can't capitalize since there's always another one rolling in.


Truthfully you can complain about just about any plane in the set...

You left out a few

the 25k "rice rocket" zero who seems to never compress as he zooms down to you at 5k

the hurricane "loopamatic" who can do 400 ft loops...those 20mm are always pointing at you.

The b-26 "laser bombers" who seem to carry more fire power than a B-17 formation.

Truth is with so many more players the plane itself isless and less of an issue. Its more positioning and SA that matter.

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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2003, 03:48:50 PM »
Gofaster.. you need not hid ur feeling so much... Express yourself.. Tell us how you really feel... :cool:

I really don't have a plane I don't like.. There are many (ok almost all) ((Ok... OK.. ALL OF THEM!!! THERRE HAPPY!!! ) I can't fly well.. but hey.. I still have fun....  I think I have attempted just about all the planes in there....

 So really Gofaster.. it is not really the plane you dislike but the people who use it's "assets" to thier advantage???  (not saying the "asset" should be in the game or not)

(Next comment not directed at you Gofaster.. just general observation)
I have always wondered why there is so much complaining about using the resources avaiable to the best advantage in the game.. but then I look from more a tactical/stratregic look than a game-play look I guess..  Military background I guess...

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Re: How to respond
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2003, 03:51:11 PM »
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so am I supposed to apologize for this?  


No, you're suppose to whine about some other plane that bugs you. Or just keep walking, nothing to see here lol :)

The only planes that drive me crazy are the La-7s, when they have a Spit about 2k behind them.

I spend almost all of my fighter time in Yaks, so I don't mind the La-7 in a 1v1 fight. But I just hate it when I look behind me, and I have an La-7 gaining on me, and right behind him (and fading fast) is a Spit.

Now, if it's just the La-7, it would be a great fight, and if it's just the spit, I can extend and come back for a pass. But when the La-7 runs me down and ties me up long enough for the spit to come in... oh I hate that.

of course if I had better SA this wouldn't happen to begin with, and if I were better with ACM, I'd probably win more often :D

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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2003, 03:51:40 PM »
Every plane I "hate" I actually love to encounter in combat, due to the fact that they are usually worth the most perk points!~ More 262's to fly! :D

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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2003, 04:02:58 PM »
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2) the Tiffie "buzzbomber"....

The 7500 ft 425 ias tiffie that screams back and forth thru the furball...your base or his...selectively spraying 20mm as he works his way thru...almost always a squad guy with good coordination and/or a wingie. If you ever get near him you've got bout 5 sec till someone is screaming down you 6



Lol, change "Tiffie" to Yak, and that's me. :)
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The b-26 "laser bombers" who seem to carry more fire power than a B-17 formation.


If you ever come at a B-26 formation from above and behind, they do have pretty much the same fire power as a B-17, Plus they are smaller Targets!  

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Re: How to respond
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2003, 04:03:51 PM »
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#1.  This is most undeniably a whine fest disguised as a survey.

#2.  Being in an IJ squad, I fly the N1K a lot along with the A6M5b, so am I supposed to apologize for this?  N1K's, which are the best IJ ride, are laughably easy to kill in the MA by more nimble spits and hurricanes or by the more popular late war speed rides like P51's, 190's and most 109's.   Not to mention your La7's and Tippis.  If you're flying one of these and you get nailed by Mr. Nik, then you screwed up.

#3.  If you don't like the profligate useage of La7's or Typhoons, go to the CT where the rides are restricted.


#1 - Heck ya its a whine fest!  Feel free to join in!

#2 - If you've been in the MA for more than 3 months and still fly the N1K2, then you truly are a El1+e P1l0+.  If you're Bishop then you just compounded your elITEne5S.  The Zero isn't so bad - its got its own issues to deal with.

#3 - Yes, I do fly the CT, mostly so I can do the Ki fighter against Spitfires.  The N1K2 is rarely offered there.

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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2003, 04:06:29 PM »
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The only planes that drive me crazy are the La-7s, when they have a Spit about 2k behind them.

I spend almost all of my fighter time in Yaks, so I don't mind the La-7 in a 1v1 fight. But I just hate it when I look behind me, and I have an La-7 gaining on me, and right behind him (and fading fast) is a Spit.

Now, if it's just the La-7, it would be a great fight, and if it's just the spit, I can extend and come back for a pass. But when the La-7 runs me down and ties me up long enough for the spit to come in... oh I hate that.

of course if I had better SA this wouldn't happen to begin with, and if I were better with ACM, I'd probably win more often :D

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Or if Rooks weren't outnumbered 3:1 by Bishops every hour of every day.  But that's a whole different whine. :cool:

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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2003, 04:08:14 PM »
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Or if Rooks weren't outnumbered 3:1 by Bishops every hour of every day.  But that's a whole different whine. :cool:


lol, be careful, you're approaching whine "critical mass"... THIS THREAD IS GONNA BLOW!!!!

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« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2003, 04:09:01 PM »
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Every plane I "hate" I actually love to encounter in combat, due to the fact that they are usually worth the most perk points!~ More 262's to fly! :D


I get plenty of perks out of my Yak9Uber by splashing P-51s and LA-7s and landing them, and then being outnumbered and getting that 1.50 perk bonus from the Bishop hordes certainly helps too!

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« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2003, 04:16:08 PM »
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You left out a few

the 25k "rice rocket" zero who seems to never compress as he zooms down to you at 5k

the hurricane "loopamatic" who can do 400 ft loops...those 20mm are always pointing at you.

The b-26 "laser bombers" who seem to carry more fire power than a B-17 formation.

Truth is with so many more players the plane itself isless and less of an issue. Its more positioning and SA that matter.


During the day hours (US) there's only 150 to 200 people in the MA, so most of the encounters tend to be 4 or 5 Bishops vs 2 Rooks or Knights, so you don't get the big Typhoon baitball feeding frenzy like you do at night (US) when the arena is approaching its maximum and the furballs can number into the 'teens and twenties.  With the low daylight numbers, most of the fighting is turnfighting.  Surprisingly, nobody brings a Zero, probably because the N1K2 can do the same job better.  Or the Spitfire V or IX.

The trick to busting the B-26 is to go in below the beltline and aim up. ;)

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« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2003, 04:16:23 PM »
The plane I hate the most should be highly perked!!!  This plane is way overused and can fly unbelievable distances when fully fueled.  The plane I'm referring to is the C-47.  Arrghhh!!!  :eek:

It carries troops and supplies faster than an M3 going down any mountain ever imained going.  Not only that, the troops & supplies can still bail out even if the plane is missing a wing!!!  And just TRY to turn fight one of those bad boys.  They turn on a dime, then laugh at you as you auger.  

But the worst part is that with all the supplies they can carry - both field & vehicle - THEY NEVER CARRY BEER!!!  How can you fight with no beer?!  

I HATE the C-47. :p