Author Topic: WTG Pasteur ! (Read 520 times)

straffo · « **on:** April 01, 2003, 03:28:20 AM »

yep !

funkedup · « **Reply #1 on:** April 01, 2003, 04:13:35 AM »

zut alors!

Curval · « **Reply #2 on:** April 01, 2003, 05:58:32 AM »

I assume you mean Louis Pasteur?

A big ~~to him as without his discovery my son would probably not be alive today. He is the gran-daddy of anti-biotics.~~

straffo · « **Reply #3 on:** April 01, 2003, 06:35:42 AM »

well no

The antibiotiques have been discovered by A.Flemming ,but Pasteur discovered the vaccination.

I just read this morning in my dayly newsletter(*) that Pasteur isolated a "souche"/origin of the pneumonie atypique/syndrome respiratoire aigu sévère or SARS for you english speaker.

(*) I work close to some of the biggest Pharmaceutical plants in France

Nashwan · « **Reply #4 on:** April 01, 2003, 06:48:53 AM »

Edward Jenner discovered vaccination.

straffo · « **Reply #5 on:** April 01, 2003, 06:54:36 AM »

I stand corrected : Jenner was first but Pasteur discovered how it worked I think ?

Ripsnort · « **Reply #6 on:** April 01, 2003, 07:38:59 AM »

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Originally posted by straffo
I stand corrected : Jenner was first but Pasteur discovered how it worked I think ?

Whatever the case, thats one battle a Frenchman won!

straffo · « **Reply #7 on:** April 01, 2003, 08:03:36 AM »

I prefer this kind of victory to any military one

I remeber I started medical studies before becoming a computer addict

Angus · « **Reply #8 on:** April 02, 2003, 05:56:35 AM »

Edward Jenner noticed that milkmaids with cow-infected pox did not get sick by THE pox, so he correctly assumed that it was protecting them. So his "vaccination" was simply infecting healthy people with this harmless pox, and PRESTO, they did not get sick.
Later vaccinations were more advanced and a bit different, - I still remember how sick I got from mine.
Now Pasteur was another story. He was well ahead of everybody in his time in research of infections. It was him that vaccinated successfully against rabies, thereby ploughing the field for further discovery in that business.
A funny thing about this is that "vaccination" comes from the french word "vache" which means cow. It has nothing to do with Jenners vaccinations though. The thing is that a newborne calf is very very sensitive against all infections untill it gets a drink from its mother, - it must be the first milk and within a few hours from birth. The first milk contains material to make the resistance system of the calf work, - hence the calf gets a big "vaccination"
So, we all owe something to this Frenchman named Lois Pasteur

thrila · « **Reply #9 on:** April 02, 2003, 07:13:33 AM »

Wasn't pasteur the guy that heated milk to sterlise it? Hence the word pasteurised milk.

straffo · « **Reply #10 on:** April 02, 2003, 07:33:18 AM »

yep Thrila he discovered that in 1865.

bounder · « **Reply #11 on:** April 02, 2003, 08:48:52 AM »

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Originally posted by Angus
A funny thing about this is that "vaccination" comes from the french word "vache" which means cow. It has nothing to do with Jenners vaccinations though.

hmm

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VARIOLATION and VACCINATION: In the last half of the 17th Century the medical approach to controlling the devasting effects of smallpox was to treat healthy subjects with a mild strain of the disease . The smallpox sample consisting of the exudate of pustules from a patient suffering from smallpox, was applied through an incision in a recipient's skin. This treatment was termed "variolation"

The term "vaccination" (from vacca; cow) came into use in the smallpox literature In order to differentiate treatment with cowpox from that of smallpox. Pasteur proposed that the term vaccination be applied to development of immunity to any disease.

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from Founders of Science
Which is what I believed to be the case - hence the post. The term comes from cow alright, and the calf thing is dead right, but the term does specifically refer to Jenners cowpox method.

straffo · « **Reply #12 on:** April 02, 2003, 08:55:08 AM »

Vaccination come from the Vaccine (the virus of the Variole/smallpox of the cow) if I remember ok
but as usual I can be wrong

Leslie · « **Reply #13 on:** April 02, 2003, 09:27:30 AM »

Pasteurization is also an important process when it comes to...BEER. Helps to make it more stable and extends the shelf life.

Heating the beer kills micro-organisms, but does tend to affect the flavor somewhat. Some breweries, notably in Russia and Eastern Europe are opting for the cold-filtration process, which filters out the impurities, but seems to make for a shorter shelf life.

So, there's the tradeoff. I believe the pasteurization process is used mainly for kegging draft beer. Draft beer itself is unpasteurized...hence, why some folks claim draft makes them feel sick, and they don't drink it. Draft beer in bottles is unpasteurized beer.

Here's a glossary with beer terms for you connoseurs:

Beer glossary VIII

Les

-dead- · « **Reply #14 on:** April 02, 2003, 09:49:44 AM »

To clarify: the vacca of vaccination is Latin. The french vache is also derived from the Latin, but doctors love to use a bit of the old Latin. Smallpox is technically called variola - from the latin for pustule - (hence the "variolation") and cowpox is called vaccinia (hence the "vaccination").