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Offline miko2d

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« on: April 02, 2003, 01:27:41 PM »
"Rep. John Shadegg, R-Ariz., has introduced the Enumerated Powers Act several times. It would require each act of Congress to contain a concise and definite statement of the specific constitutional authority relied upon for the enactment of each portion of that act or else the bill could not go forward. Shadegg's Enumerated Powers Act (HR 175) went down to three crushing defeats.

Can we ask for more compelling evidence of Congress's contempt for our Constitution, or do you think our congressmen are simply reflecting the constitutional contempt of the people?"

--Walter Williams


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 Hangtime, I remember your question about where we are oppressed unconstitutionally. Care to review this evidence? Good point as a start.

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Offline john9001

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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2003, 01:40:14 PM »
HR 175 sounds like a good idea, i'm going to look into it, must be all them liberals in congress voting it down, it would limit govt power too much to suit them.

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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2003, 01:45:36 PM »
Liberals say that all their schemes are intended to 'promote the general welfare'.  So even if this passes it would just add a formality to the process of making intrusive legislation.

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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2003, 01:45:40 PM »
All this would do is add something to every bill that would say, "Pursuant to the authority granted under Article 1, Section 8".

Congress shows its contempt for the people by entertaining stupid feel-good bills like that one.

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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2003, 01:49:48 PM »
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All this would do is add something to every bill that would say, "Pursuant to the authority granted under Article 1, Section 8".

Congress shows its contempt for the people by entertaining stupid feel-good bills like that one.


"General Welfare" is pretty broad lol.

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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2003, 01:53:18 PM »
Its redundant.  The judiciary system decides if the legislation violates the constitution... not the legislative branch.

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« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2003, 01:57:41 PM »
Mini D: Its redundant.  The judiciary system decides if the legislation violates the constitution... not the legislative branch.

 Having three branches is redundant - we vote for the president, why bother with the rest, right?

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« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2003, 01:58:48 PM »
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Mini D: Its redundant.  The judiciary system decides if the legislation violates the constitution... not the legislative branch.

 Having three branches is redundant - we vote for the president, why bother with the rest, right?

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« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2003, 02:33:16 PM »
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Originally posted by Mini D
Its redundant.  The judiciary system decides if the legislation violates the constitution... not the legislative branch.

Well said.  Legislators would come up with some perfunctory language to stick in every bill to satisfy that Act.  Only the judiciary has the authority to interpret the Constitution to test laws.

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« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2003, 03:13:19 PM »
I think we should do the same in each of our posts...

(With thanks to HiTech for providing this forum)

Should preceed each post in a thread. This way we will not be thumbing our nose at the entity responsible.

Makes sense ... huh miko?

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« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2003, 03:24:18 PM »
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Mini D: Its redundant.  The judiciary system decides if the legislation violates the constitution... not the legislative branch.

 Having three branches is redundant - we vote for the president, why bother with the rest, right?

 miko
well.. you've moved right past the original point into tardom.

Why don't you just come out and say what you were really trying to get at here miko.  Quit beating around the bush.

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« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2003, 03:34:06 PM »
Miko doesn't appear to understand the premise for checks & balances... of course, I'm sure the idea escapes him since there is no such thing in communism.
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« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2003, 03:49:31 PM »
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Miko doesn't appear to understand the premise for checks & balances... of course, I'm sure the idea escapes him since there is no such thing in communism.
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Sure there are checks and balances in Communist states.  You have Demand but no Supply.

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« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2003, 03:52:10 PM »
Is that a sarcastic reply?

edited out stupid comment.
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« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2003, 03:53:16 PM »
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Is that a sarcastic reply?


Yes.