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Offline Ripsnort

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« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2003, 04:21:59 PM »
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I have never heard or read reports of Iraqui soldiers raping female POW.


You have now....
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/doubleissue/heroes/cornum.htm
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« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2003, 04:28:09 PM »
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I'm just curious if her gender influenced the decision to attempt a rescue. If so then it validates my arguments opposing women soldiers in war zones.  


couldn't agree more,
it's not about the ability of the women..
it's about the nature of how men will act ..

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« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2003, 04:38:28 PM »
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You have now....
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/doubleissue/heroes/cornum.htm


That article only reinforces my stance that women should always be allowed to serve in the military.

No freedom loving American should be denied the choice of fighting for his or her country
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« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2003, 04:43:57 PM »
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You have now....
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/doubleissue/heroes/cornum.htm


Thanks Rip,  Saves me the trouble of doing the search again :D

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« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2003, 04:44:02 PM »
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couldn't agree more,
it's not about the ability of the women..
it's about the nature of how men will act ..




Ya know those sodoms will rape men pows too.

Anyway she has broke arms and legs and I bet those bastards did it after she was captured. I think when her story is told sh t
is gonna hit the fan.

Oh right, it already did...

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« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2003, 05:45:26 PM »
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Ya know those sodoms will rape men pows too.
true, but besides the point.

having men on the front lines doesn't affect other men,
having women on the front does.

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« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2003, 05:53:24 PM »
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Originally posted by Wlfgng
true, but besides the point.

having men on the front lines doesn't affect other men,
having women on the front does.


simple, those men do not belong there.
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« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2003, 06:18:01 PM »
From the article Rip posted----
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Five of the eight crew members did die. Cornum survived-only to be captured by Iraqi soldiers and held eight days as one of the Gulf War's 23 pows. Few who know the wiry, iron-willed doctor with the golden-green eyes are surprised she survived both ordeals. "I felt sorry for the Iraqis who captured her," says former supervisor Maj. Gen. John Ryneska. But she didn't have an easy time. Cornum broke both arms, shattered her knee, and took a bullet in her right shoulder. An Iraqi guard sexually assaulted her. Repeatedly interrogated, she refused to reveal classified information.

Cornum's stalwart conduct helped reshape the debate on women in the military. The possibility of capture was often cited to keep women out of combat. "This was a validation that if women are in combat and something like this happens," says retired Air Force Brig. Gen. Wilma Vaught, "they do have the strength, the stamina, the mental courage to meet the demands."
After Cornum testified about her experience in 1992, many combat posts were opened to women.


Looks like this makes a great argument for women in combat.

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« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2003, 06:26:08 PM »
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If you all are so upset we went to this trouble to rescue her, I suppose we could just put her back.

:rolleyes:



No, I'm thrilled we got her back- I'm upset she was there in the first place. If we went through any extra efforts to rescue her then it substiantates my point in another thread- women have no place in a combat zone. Not only does their presence put an added stress on their male counterparts, but in my opinion it goes against a basic law of nature.

I understand recognizing the physical and mental differences between men and women isn't politically correct and I understand prohibiting women from serving in combat zones isn't fair- but our number one concern should be that we present fighting units free of distractions and focused on their missions.
Women in combat zones are a distraction at best and an anchor at worst. It's a national disgrace we've allowed women to be killed and captured in Iraq.

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« Reply #24 on: April 02, 2003, 06:26:24 PM »
I have read SOP and other Special forces stuff...

They are truly badmthfkrs....The best in the world..

It will be very interexsting to read this stuff in 20 years..

Hopefully we contain the WMDs before **** really hits...


On that note..what woudl or could we do if those scum of the oil fields do use vx and other crap ?

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« Reply #25 on: April 02, 2003, 06:27:29 PM »
I think its a shining endorsment for the war fighing capabilities of the US military. Would they have done the same for a male soldier. Yes definalty..would it have been as big a deal in the press..probebly ..who knows.
But to have the intel and capability to perform the mission is bad news for the Iraqis. And they will know it.
The success of this operation helped put some more awe back in shock and awe.

well done. This war is not mogadishu.

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« Reply #26 on: April 02, 2003, 06:31:18 PM »
Just another glaring setback for the mercinary invaders in their doomed war on the peaceful people of iraq.  

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« Reply #27 on: April 02, 2003, 06:32:15 PM »
We know PFC (she was a Private First Class, right?) Lynch was captured with other men.

They're all dead AFAIK.

I can't help but wonder if they weren't killed for acting out against their actors for her sake- being that they were torturing her/raping her, they tried to put an end to it- lost their lives for it.

I'm not saying anything yet... but if that's the case, then it would prove what had been said in that previous thread (Women In War).

Now, that said- how many times were rescue operations of this magnititude launched for a private first class in previous wars?

I know officers and pilots were high priority, but privates?

Now before you get all upity, I'm basing this on past wars and that I've never heard of a rescue op for just one private.
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« Reply #28 on: April 02, 2003, 06:36:09 PM »
Is there evidence that she was tortured or raped? Honestly haven't heard that confirmed yet.

Not that it would matter. Male or female, a soldier has been rescued.. We can sort out the BS later.

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« Reply #29 on: April 02, 2003, 06:41:20 PM »
The thing that sends shivers up my spine is her age.

Gods, why do we send kids to do the fighting? No one under 25 should be in a combat zone..or near one imo. :(