Author Topic: news on deaths of women and kids at checkpoint (Read 707 times)

anonymous · « **on:** April 02, 2003, 03:10:41 PM »

"The New York Post reports that Sahid Mohammed Bakir Almohari, a "prominent Muslim cleric," says Saddam's men are to blame for yesterday's shooting of seven Iraqis in a van who ran an allied checkpoint. "These people, children and women, those were put in the bus by Saddam Hussein's forces, their husbands or fathers were taken hostages and the driver was ordered to speed up to the checkpoint and not stop so that they would be shot at," Almohari tells Fox News Channel."

blitz · « **Reply #1 on:** April 02, 2003, 03:20:05 PM »

Would american wifes do drive right into death with their babies with them because they loove their husbands more than their babies?

Regards Blitz

Dowding · « **Reply #2 on:** April 02, 2003, 03:22:19 PM »

Who knows, Blitz?

Maybe they weren't thinking cooly and rationally. Can't think why...

midnight Target · « **Reply #3 on:** April 02, 2003, 03:23:59 PM »

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Originally posted by blitz
Would american wifes do drive right into death with their babies with them because they loove their husbands more than their babies?

Regards Blitz

Hell No!

American Wives would have been armed!

funkedup · « **Reply #4 on:** April 02, 2003, 03:25:06 PM »

Maybe the Saddamites didn't give them a full briefing on their mission before they locked them into the van?
Maybe they only told the driver ,who obviously wasn't a woman?

majic · « **Reply #5 on:** April 02, 2003, 04:24:06 PM »

Anyone else reporting this? I heard different.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/893527.asp?0cv=CB10

fd ski · « **Reply #6 on:** April 02, 2003, 04:25:53 PM »

muslim clerics and new york post are still on my list of "unreliable" sources, to put nicely.

Saintaw · « **Reply #7 on:** April 02, 2003, 04:26:21 PM »

Heard that on TV too yesterday, but it was only a comment from the anchor.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #8 on:** April 02, 2003, 04:27:52 PM »

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Originally posted by fd ski
muslim clerics and new york post are still on my list of "unreliable" sources, to put nicely.

I suppose you put faith in the NY Times? Talk about your left-wing liberally slanted newspapers:rolleyes:

fd ski · « **Reply #9 on:** April 02, 2003, 04:38:40 PM »

i'd take times over post any time of the day. Difference in the level of profesionalism is huge. I don't know why people rag on times for "liberal" slant, them seem to get just as much crap from the other side for being "conservative".
Overall it's a profesional newspaper. Post on the other hand is a gutter filler. Sensationalism and exploitation across the board.

Batz · « **Reply #10 on:** April 02, 2003, 05:09:33 PM »

its been reported else where before it was in the NY Post. Dismissing it out right because it was also reported in the post is stupid. It may or may not be true but the fact that a particular source reports it as well doesnt make it false.

And only a liberal would claim the NY Times isnt a liberal Newspaper.

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This is too convinient.

Really? In what way? Even if its not true the bus didnt stop. The soldiers fired to protect themselves. They need no excuse whether these folks were forced to run the check point or not.

There will be an investigation regardless.

If you were in a war zone would you drive at high speed into a military check point? Especially, after your state media reported a "martyr bomb" just killed several soldiers at a similiar check point.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #11 on:** April 02, 2003, 05:21:44 PM »

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Originally posted by fd ski
i'd take times over post any time of the day. Difference in the level of profesionalism is huge. I don't know why people rag on times for "liberal" slant, them seem to get just as much crap from the other side for being "conservative".
Overall it's a profesional newspaper. Post on the other hand is a gutter filler. Sensationalism and exploitation across the board.

Well of course it is, you agree with everything it prints, its natural for you to say its professionalism

Scootter · « **Reply #12 on:** April 02, 2003, 06:24:16 PM »

blitz

they may not have known they would not stop

maybe only the driver know this and they were just along for the ride

perhaps then only the driver was suicidal

think man

don’t make this so easy

Red Tail 444 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 02, 2003, 06:47:19 PM »

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Originally posted by fd ski
muslim clerics and new york post are still on my list of "unreliable" sources, to put nicely.

LMFAO...Too damn funny NOT to reply to!:D

I do think it's unfair..to the Muslim Clerics, to compare them to the Post, though

"Aint worth the paper it's printed on"

icemaw · « **Reply #14 on:** April 02, 2003, 07:00:27 PM »

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Originally posted by blitz
Would american wifes do drive right into death with their babies with them because they loove their husbands more than their babies?

Regards Blitz

I must be really dense cause I dont get your point blitz? Are you saying that because they did that to save thier husbands lifes that the govenment of suddam is really a caring and helpfull government and that the coalition of countrys trying to free the Iraqi people from that govenment is wrong to do it?

Or maybe because the american govenment would not force the wives and children to do this that some how the wives of American service men are not equal to Iraqi wives.

What kind of sick twisted mind could possibly think that forcing woman and children into a situation that will cause thier deaths is some kind of great thing to be bragged about.

Now I am not in Iraq and was not a witness to the shooting. However I did read a alledged interview with the HUSBAND AND FATHER of the woman and children that was driving the land rover. They where actually fleeing the murding oppressive govenment of Iraq running to the protection of the American army and due to some miscomunication from the US army personal the order to stop was perceived by the FATHER of the children that were killed as to be being waved tru the checkpoint.
This man who dressed in his best suit a black one with white pinstripes so he could look as AMERICAN as possible to greet the AMERICAN liberators that were taking out of power the evil government that has murdered and opressed so many of his countrymen.

After the shooting he had been hit and knocked out. He woke up the the face of an American service man balling his eyes out telling him how sorry he was that it was a mistake they thought the truck was driven by a suicide bomber. At that point the driver of the landrover cursed the name of saddam and said this was all saddams fault.

It really suprises me that the people that are free today paid for by the blood of American service personel. Are so eager to deny the Iraqi people the same freedoms that they enjoy everyday. What have the Iraqi people done that is so bad that they deserve to live under the boot of a man and family as evil as suddam hussain. In every town that has been cleared of Iraqi goventment personel the Iraqis are welcoming the liberators just as Mr Bush said they would.

War is a terrible wastfull dirty deadly thing! But sometimes it is the only way to make change happen. The blood of young men and woman from all over the world is bleeding into the sand of
Iraq right now staining the earth with the price of freedom for the Iraqi people!

You are free to your opinion as I am free to mine. You might try to remember who paid for your freedom in blood I will never forget who paid for mine. I bet in a couple years you ask the average Iraqi who they owe thier freedom to they will know.
They owe it to the Coalition blood that stains the ground of thier nation from north to south east to west.

I have never known opression myself but I have lived and breathed freedom all my life and would gladly give whats left of it to help someone else know the freedom that I have known.