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Offline JimBear

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1.04 is Arcadish? Too easy? Bah!!
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2000, 12:01:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by Karnak:
You never read accounts of Spitfire, Hurricane, Mustang, Thunderbolt, Lightning, Bf109, Fw190 or Zero pilots who are constantly retrimming in the middle of a brawl.  Many, if not most, of these aircraft COULD NOT retrim in flight and any "retriming" would have been done by adjusting where you held the stick and what position you defaulted the rudder to.

And excerpt from "To Fly and Fight" by Bud Anderson...

  Any airplane with a single propeller produces torque. The more horsepower you have, the more the prop will pull you off to one side. The Mustangs I flew used a 12-cylinder Packard Merlin engine that displaced 1,649 cubic inches. That is 10 times the size of the engine that powers an Indy car. It developed power enough that you never applied full power sitting still on the ground because it would pull the plane's tail up off the runway and the propeller would chew up the concrete. With so much power, you were continually making minor adjustments on the controls to keep the Mustang and its wing-mounted guns pointed straight.

    There were three little palm-sized wheels you had to keep fiddling with. They trimmed you up for hands-off level flight. One was for the little trim tab on the tail's rudder, the vertical slab which moves the plane left or right. Another adjusted the tab on the tail's horizontal elevators that raise or lower the nose and help reduce the force you had to apply for hard turning. The third was for aileron trim, to keep your wings level, although you didn't have to fuss much with that one. Your left hand was down there a lot if you were changing speeds, as in combat . . . while at the same time you were making minor adjustments with your feet on the rudder pedals and your hand on the stick. At first it was awkward. But, with experience, it was something you did without thinking, like driving a car and twirling the radio dial.

    It's a little unnerving to think about how many things you have to deal with all at once to fly combat


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« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2000, 12:22:00 PM »
Great post Jimbear....think that sum's it up.
However, in 1.03 trim actually moved the control surface beyond it's "centered" limit's. So trim actually increased lift, in real life this was not the case. Also, many planes had minimal trim input in flight compared to the mustang.

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« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2000, 02:03:00 PM »
Hi Karnak,

 
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Lets take some examples:
According to VVS tests, a Spitfire Mk IX could sustain a 3.2 G turn.  

Can you post the source please?

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1.04 is Arcadish? Too easy? Bah!!
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2000, 02:14:00 PM »
I told it before, once again, I like 1.04. I really find the game more challanging now, and 1 winning tactics before (get alt, find enemy, get him or waste his e while keeping advantage and again get him) Now you can fight from disadvantage even against tough opponents, and you can dogfights with much more choices. Game is faster, more challenging, I like it.

Only problem is that I do not fly in MA, so I am limmited to H2H expirience now.

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