Author Topic: Correct performance? (Read 871 times)

qts · « **on:** April 06, 2003, 08:35:24 AM »

I've just upgraded from a dual P3-1000 to a P4-2400/533 (a natty little Shuttle system) and am seeing only a modest improvement in AH offline (haven't tried online yet). I run AH at 1600x1200x32.

Both systems use EIDE and Gf4-4200 video cards. Drivers are Detonator 43. Both machines have 1 GB RAM. Both systems run XP Pro and are fully updated as per WindowsUpdate. Neither machine is overclocked.

In AH, I load the Trinity map, and take a C205 to an enemy vehicle base. I get 60-80 fps along the way, but this drops to 50-60 fps when attacking, and < 30 fps when I fly through the smoke.

If I enable Quincunx FSAA, those figures are cut by 2/3.

I've tried 3DMark 2003: my P3-1000 scores 1009, which is about right, but my P4 only scores 1296.

I've read about nVidia's concerns, so I benchmarked UT2003 at 1024x768 (fresh install and unpatched - haven't Epic heard of DVDs?), no tweaking, and my P3-1000 scored 82 on Flyby and 31 on Botmatch, whereas my P4-2400 scored 136 and 56 respectively.

I've gone through the BIOS tweaking where necessary - e.g. telling the computer that the memory is DDR333, not DDR266 with little effect.

I've got the usual system tray stuff running

Am I getting correct results? If not, how can I increase them?

qts · « **Reply #1 on:** April 06, 2003, 09:23:42 AM »

Just tried online and the results are miserable. Top FPs was low 40s, getting down to 20 or so in action and 11(!) in smoke. And jerky. X2 FSAA was no better.

This is about the same as on my old machine. I must have something set wrong.

beet1e · « **Reply #2 on:** April 06, 2003, 10:22:26 AM »

qts -

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In AH, I load the Trinity map, and take a C205 to an enemy vehicle base. I get 60-80 fps along the way, but this drops to 50-60 fps when attacking, and < 30 fps when I fly through the smoke.

Doh! That's about the same as I get with my 1.2GHz Athlon on A7V133 mobo with 512MB SDRAM memory. sorry to ruin your day! But AH performs just fine...

Ghosth · « **Reply #3 on:** April 06, 2003, 10:36:04 AM »

If your suffering from fps try 800x600.

You'll find FPS may raise dramaticly, and
planes are bigger, makes em easier to hit.

Give it a try.

Other than that, make sure nothing running in background, & see what monitor refresh rate is at.

"Optimal" may not BE optimal.

qts · « **Reply #4 on:** April 06, 2003, 03:35:22 PM »

On a 2.4 GHz machine, Ghosth?

Ghosth · « **Reply #5 on:** April 06, 2003, 08:05:38 PM »

There are a LOT of things that can degrade performance, even on a 2.4 ghz machine.

Start troubleshooting by going back to basics, build upwards is the way I learned.

You disagree?

Pfunk · « **Reply #6 on:** April 06, 2003, 09:44:18 PM »

Back up your stuff and reformat, I bet you didnt reformat your HD when you swapped out the motherboard and processor eh? Simple rule I learned along time ago with computers, reformating and reinstalling watermelon fixes 90% of your problems. Oh yeah and dont use the newest Det drivers they suck. Go back to 41.09

bloom25 · « **Reply #7 on:** April 06, 2003, 10:18:40 PM »

What are your Direct3d settings? (Is anistropic filtering enabled?)

3dMark 2003 is nearly useless as a benchmarking tool unless your card supports DX9. (A GeForce 4 does not, thus many tests that are very heavily weighted do not run.) Run 3dMark 2001 SE.

qts · « **Reply #8 on:** April 07, 2003, 04:55:38 AM »

This is a fresh install of XP on a blank disk, and a fresh install of AH. Fresh everything, in fact - as might be inferred from my benchmarks.

Aniso is disabled. Otherwise settings are at default. I've tried enabling Mipmaps without any effect.

FSAA doesn't actually look good on the Gf4 which is odd.

Siaf__csf · « **Reply #9 on:** April 07, 2003, 06:41:12 AM »

Heh I got your offline fps online with my old 1.4gig athlon + Gf2 MX400 lol.

Offline looking at sky the fps rocketed to 270. Online was 75ish in flight and 25-30 in heavy smoke.

Now my fps is capped at monitor refresh (85) and never plunges under 60 with XP1900+ and Gf3ti200. OS is windows2000 pro.

Probably your heatsink is loose and your pentium is throttling all the time

qts · « **Reply #10 on:** April 07, 2003, 11:13:09 AM »

Good one. I'll check that immediately I get home.

qts · « **Reply #11 on:** April 07, 2003, 06:19:11 PM »

Checked heatsink and removed excess thermal compound. FSAA performance is still cr*p.

qts · « **Reply #12 on:** April 08, 2003, 02:17:05 PM »

3D Mark 2001 result is 7888 (1024x768, noFSAA, default settings). CPU temp is 49 degrees C.

Is this a normal result? If so, what's up with AH?

Siaf__csf · « **Reply #13 on:** April 08, 2003, 04:39:01 PM »

Umm.. FSAA performance is supposed to be crap with Geforce4. You didn't know they only work with 16-bit and no fsaa?

If you want fsaa you need to buy R9700.

whels · « **Reply #14 on:** April 08, 2003, 05:43:16 PM »

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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Umm.. FSAA performance is supposed to be crap with Geforce4. You didn't know they only work with 16-bit and no fsaa?

If you want fsaa you need to buy R9700.

be sure u install the latest drivers for the motherboard.
windows will just install generic one to get it to boot.

whels