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Offline Sandman

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« on: April 06, 2003, 03:14:57 PM »
This movie came up a few times on the Top 5 War movies thread.

Can someone explain it? I just didn't understand it and because of that, I didn't enjoy it.

thanx.
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« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2003, 03:28:46 PM »
Did you see it in a theater or at home ?

I don't think the screenplay or the realisation was great but the "ambiance" was pretty good

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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2003, 03:29:15 PM »
I saw it at home.
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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2003, 03:29:45 PM »
I had to see it a few times before it made sense. I think its message wasn't to glorify the warriors, (as they were shown as normal people in abnormal situations)  but to show how fluffied up war was/is.

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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2003, 03:42:48 PM »
When I've seen it a 1st in theather I thought it was great but at home before I got my new audio/video installation it was just  average :(
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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2003, 03:57:00 PM »
Worst war movie ever made.  Its simply one giant rhetorical question.

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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2003, 04:45:53 PM »
Hated it!

I have bought some bad movies before but this one will never be in my collection.

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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2003, 05:02:12 PM »
What MiniD said, I hate it when they try to shove those down my  throat...
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« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2003, 05:08:35 PM »
It is a great movie of men at war. One of the best. Rethorical? Just the opposite.
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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2003, 06:03:02 PM »
Yea no wonder an italian likes it.. :D

An Italian infantry unit Somewhere in the North African Desert 1941.

Men its time to attack, charge!

Hey Vincenzo is it really moral to attack?

Probably not Salvatore, but I am more perplexed by the issue that our attack, if succesful, will glorifly war.

Ahh, good point - lets just sit here and wait for the british and surrender.

Yes lets do that, and give me some cappucino.

:)

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« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2003, 06:04:07 PM »
I enjoyed the movie - but I see how many people might not.

First off, watch it a few times - once or twice isnt enough - youre missing too much.

Second, instead of trying to "figure the movie out" try and just take it in.

Third, dont watch the movie with the assumption thats its an anti-war film - its not.

As for the rhectorical question issue - I suppose you could see it that way - and its a bad point IMO if this is viewed as the message the writer is trying to get across.

The movie looses momentum from time to time with flashbacks of home, etc etc, but I enjoy the how the movie protrays, as was stated above, ordinary men in extraordinary situations.  Its just a different slant on WWII - no glamour, no "good fight," no glorified deaths (except the last one), and no underlying point beneath it all.  The watcher/reader is allowed to make his own analysis about what the movie is supposed to mean.

The charectar development is also intriguing.  The most anti-war hippie nut case is the one that shows the most dedication and resolve under fire, the most "hardcore, kill em all" types and shown crying, etc etc.

Blah, blah, now Im rambling... sorry - worthless post.

Bottom line is that I dont think you can explain the film (or explain what it means to 'you.') without a 20 page essay.  Its far too complex.

Just watch it with an open mind.  Absorbe everything instead of trying to figure out what the message is - the movie draws out the emotion in you very well.

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« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2003, 06:08:21 PM »
Thanks Saur... maybe I'll give it another go.
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« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2003, 06:25:15 PM »
THIN RED LINE, THE: THE ABRIDGED SCRIPT™
By David Faulkner

FADE IN:

EXT. JUNGLE

Shot of leaves. Trees. A LIZARD. Birds. More trees. More leaves. Birds. Lizards. Etc.

AUDIENCE Wasn't this on PBS last night?

EXT. PEACEFUL NATIVE VILLAGE

JIM CAVIEZEL is AWOL (whatever that stands for) and hanging around with native people. It is very PEACEFUL and PLEASANT, even though they are PRIMITIVE. This is contrasted later with VIOLENT, UNPLEASANT, but supposedly CIVILIZED people fighting their war.

JIM CAVIEZEL I sure do like it here. This symbolizes the existential metaphysical being of the essence of the human condition...

A big sinister American ship shows up. JIM CAVIEZEL is taken on board.

INT. SHIP

The ship is very lifeless, claustraphobic, and sinister seeming. This is a sharp contrast from the wonderful natural world outside.

SEAN PENN You were AWOL again. Guess I'll make you a medic.

JIM CAVIEZEL A medic, symbolizing my role as a healer within this horror of warfare, the dualistic nature of the...

SEAN PENN Shut up.

EXT. SHIP

JOHN TRAVOLTA (with a silly looking) mustache) Wanna join the Church of Scientology?

NICK NOLTE Uh, no thanks. Oh, by the way, I'm a fanatical war-loving type of guy.

JOHN TRAVOLTA (not so subtly) Some people in wars do stupid things to try to increase their prestige and stab people in the back. I wonder if that is a foreshadowing. Oh, I'm only in this movie briefly as an awkward cameo.

EXT. JUNGLE

More trees and jungles. A simple native man looking for food walks by as the scared ****less American soldiers march through the jungle.

DIRECTOR TERRENCE MALICK It's symbolic!

Soldiers find a mutilated American soldier.

NICK NOLTE Damn Japs. Let's go shoot some of those yellow Nazi-loving evil squinty- eyed Japanese so they make TVs and Walkmans instead of trying to take over half the world. Har har har.

battle starts. JAPANESE SOLDIERS shoot at AMERICAN SOLDIERS.

NICK NOLTE stays a safe distance away.

NICK NOLTE (into radio) Go lose your life with a frontal assault on their base, even though you're outnumbered and being slaughtered, but I want to be a big war hero.

ELIAS KOTEAS (through radio) No, they'll all die.

NICK NOLTE Who cares, ****ing coward. God bless America.

AMERICAN SOLDIERS kill JAPANESE SOLDIERS in a bunker, take some captive. JAPANESE captives are all half- starved boys, trembling and praying in terror.

DIRECTOR TERRENCE MALICK See! They're not really faceless evil monsters!

STEVEN SPIELBERG Damn you, people might compare that to SAVING PRIVATE RYAN, where the EVIL GERMANS were just faceless EVIL NAZI enemies. Then again, people are idiots, so they probably won't.

Battle is over. AMERICANS beat crap out of JAPANESE prisoners, pull out their teeth, torture them, etc.

JIM CAVIEZEL War is bad, takes away people's humanity, the essence of their lives, ripped away, their souls torn as the very fabric of consciousness is torn with a barbaric blood lust, the transcendent flow of their being rippled across the jagged terrain of the symbolic human struggle...

JIM CAVIEZEL goes back to the native village, where he sees people arguing, children fighting, and a child dying from disease.

DIRECTOR TERRENCE MALICK You see, we idealize even nature, but in reality, there is no such thing as a perfect place. Get it?

AUDIENCE Duh...huh...what?

BEN CHAPLIN daydreams about fondling his wife.

BEN CHAPLIN My wife sure is hot, I can't wait till this war is over so I can go back and **** her. That's the only thing giving me hope to keep on going.

BEN CHAPLIN gets a letter from his WIFE, saying she fell in love with another man and wants a divorce.

BEN CHAPLIN Aww ****.

Suddenly, hordes of JAPANESE attack. People DIE. It is very SAD. The LIZARD that was shown in the beginning is DEAD.

DIRECTOR TERRENCE MALICK Get it? Isn't this deep and meaningful?

TEENAGE BOYS IN AUDIENCE What the ****'s he talkin' ÁÃout, yo? Let's see some Japanese bellybutton get kicked, otherwise they'll never become pacifists and just make consumer electronics, like my crappy SONY PLAYSTATION and my NINTENDO 64 that I waste vast amounts of time playing, when I'm not listening to music on my SONY DISCMAN or watching my SONY TELEVISION.

TEENAGE GIRLS IN AUDIENCE Where's MATT DAMON?! I thought he was supposed to be in this! He's SO CUTE, almost as cute as LEONARDO DICAPRIO.

WAR VETERANS IN AUDIENCE Damn, when I was in the war, I just remember wanting to go home alive. I guess I should've noticed all that symbolism and the philosophical side to it. Now where are my dentures?

STAUNCH REPUBLICANS IN AUDIENCE THIS MOVIE REALLY SHOWS WHY AMERICA RULES! USA IS THE BEST. WE HAVE THE BEST MILITARY IN THE WORLD, NOW WE RULE THE WORLD INSTEAD OF THOSE JAPANESE ****ERS! I CAN'T BELIEVE THOSE ****ING HIPPIES IN THE 60'S DIDN'T WANT TO GO INTO ANOTHER JUNGLE AND FIGHT MORE ASIAN PEOPLE FOR THEIR COUNTRY! GOD BLESS THE USA, THE LAND OF THE FREE!

CRITICS This movie sucks, SAVING PRIVATE RYAN was much better, because it had TOM HANKS, and WE LOVE TOM HANKS.

More leaves, trees, birds, etc.

FADE OUT:

GEORGE CLOONEY Hey, wait, let me make my cameo before you end!

GEORGE CLOONEY shows up for some unnecessary part tacked on the end.

END

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« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2003, 07:06:46 PM »
lol where you find that, bro?

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« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2003, 07:17:38 PM »
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