Originally posted by funkedup
I think as a species we should apologize to the Neanderthals and Cro-Magnons.
lol funked
Blitz i must say i find your dismissal or ignoring of the actual post's topic a little frustrating to see.Just as you are trying to damage the Amercan peoples pride in their country you totally ignore the fact that your own pride in your country POST WW2 is mainly due to the USA's support of your country.America for good or bad save your country from ruins after the war.Some of the actions of aid may well have had some motive of stopping russian expansion but not all of it.You are a truelly cynical person to suppose that everything the US does is based on greed or ignorence of the laws.If I were German I would have pride in what my country has done in terms of rising from the ashes as it were but I would give credit where its due and thank the USA.I certainly would not accuse the entire nation of thinking as some members of their CIA or Government might have 20 years ago.True mistakes are made but justas you are not to blame for what went on in Germany in 1940's the modern day Americans cannot be held accountable for the actions of what they do 20 or 30 years ago.You need to step back and just re-look at what your signiture is saying and asking for.I find it offensive
As for the question put to lord vader concerning which UN resolution that Iraq has broken, NUKE have you actually listened to the news or do you watch it like its a lot of clips from the latest video game and ignore the actual words spoken?
The sole reason for the war is the breaking of resolution 1444. Iraq had to conform to the UN's inspection teams demands and show proof of the massed stores of weapons of mass destruction that Iraq was known to possess were/are being destroyed.
edit one Point here: (if as people accuse the Americans supplied the chemical weapons etc then why do you now accuse the USA of lieing about the weapons the iraqis possess? YOU CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS!)
They(saddams power base) have over the last 12 years of sanctions consistantly made the task difficult and even faced with the threat of war by the UN and all of its members Saddam still refused to bow to pressure because he had established some rather nice cards for his hand.
Since the Gulf war Iraq has used the sanctions to decrease involvement with countries like the US and INCREASED its dealings with some of the major players in the UN, ie France Germany and Russia.Saddam is no idiot, he knows once that flow of money is established those countries wont want the supply of cash to dry up.He undoubtedly used or intended the resulting greed to split the coalition over starting a new war.It seems also during this time Iraq continued to train and fund terrorist organisations (possibly continued to try to manufacture weapons of mass destruction).It seems hes linked with one group the Al-Queada, who purpetrated the Sept 11th atrocity.
Then Saddam watched the resulting clash in the UN with ive no doubt quite a smile on his face.Especially if he managed to set it all in motion by organising the sept 11th attack.
Saddam now hopes for a cease fire.Like last time he wants the world opinion to cause its end , not his useless so called elite army.He knows he has a VERY large army but not a particularly well equiped one.Think about it.
Saddam has already caused the greatest level of hostility between European leaders than anyone has for 30 years.
he has damaged the relations of a whole host of what he sees as the enemy countries.US and france uk and france germany and UK etc etc, all severely strained.He hadnt even fired a shot in anger and he managed to do what he had strove to do in the Gulf war. (split the coalition).
He has made the mistake though of thinking that the US will falter once bodies are seen and relations with more and more countries force them to consider their overall appearence to the world. The arab league wait until hostilities start before condemning the US and UK yet allowed troops in their countries.I suspect this is relevent myself but hope is not.As the war continues you will see more and more condemn it as we are fed pictures if iraqi people dieing.Its a media war and Saddam is no slouch in the bull**** department! He only has to fake a missile strike on a mosque or hospital, create some world unrest by using terrorists etc to really cause great consternation, possibly demands of the war ending from the rest of the countries of this planet of ours.
Problem is he doesnt know the Americans or the British.He hasnt realised that we intend to finish what we start and take his regime and with luck his life away before we give up or falter.He miscalculated in the first gulf war and hes make a sorry mistake this time too.He got what he wanted, opinions of the UK and US have undoubtedly been damaged but he isnt going to be in power to gloat! That you can bet on.He'll either run to the hills and lose all his power or he will die where he sits.
I see people who now, even once their country is at war, still wont support their own troops. I find it disgusting, Im sorry. I know we all want peace and dont agree on how to do it but i have not seen one of these protesters offer a valid alternative to war if like we suspect Saddam is trying his best to produce weapons with which to attack our countries with.For good or bad this Madman Saddam has to go. No one wanted it but if it isnt done he will continue to strive for his ultimate goal of destroying US/western trade and position of power in the world standings. Why? because hes a f*****g lunatic straight out of the middle ages!.
Hes thinking like a warlord and doesnt give 2 sh*ts what happens to people or countries around him.
Well the world has changed. I dont think his sort of continual underhanded and hidden attacks on our society is going to be tollerated and he will be dealt with.He pits himself against us and is going to pay the price THIS time. He wont slip out of it again.
Its started blitz. Im as sorry as you are but its time to rid the world of this lunatic.I dont want to see iraqis killed either.If there was another way to get rid of him I'd take it.BUT now its started, now there is only defeat of saddam OR humiliation and damage to UN countries and their relations even further I choose the defeat of Saddam and I'd endeavour to heal the relations with the Franch/Russian/German /US/UK once that monster is gone.You do nothing to help this happen by accusing Americans of what you have done.Hell its true the CIA etc have done some bad things but I dont for one minute suspect this is becaue of the will of the average American citizen.Just as now i Wouldnt believe what Hitler did in WW2 was in your name or that what Saddam does is a representation of the average Iraqi's attitude.Thats what biggots are for.
