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« Reply #30 on: April 07, 2003, 11:04:31 AM »
Ok, I'll do by myself: (quick search on google) "WW2 factbook" http://www.skalman.nu/worldwar2/su-lendlease.htm

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Churchill (All armed with 6-pounder gun) 301
Cromwell 6
M10 Wolverine TD 52
M15A1 MGMC 100
M17 MGMC 1.000
M18 Hellcat TD 5
M24 Chaffee 2
M26 Pershing 1
M3 Lee/Grant ("Coffin for 7 brothers") 1.386
M31 ARV (M3 Medium tank chassis) 115
M3A1 "Stuart" light tank 1.676
M4 Sherman (75mm / 76mm) 2.007 / 2.095
M5 Light tank 5
Matilda Mk. II 1.084
T-48 (SU-57) Tank destroyer 650
Tetrarch 20
Valentine Bridgelayer 25
Valentine Mk. III/IV/IX/XI 2.394 (British) 1.388 (Canadian)

 
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the Russians got about 351.700 trucks and 78.000 Jeeps from the USA.


Oh, my... THIS is a big number.

Another Site:

http://wio.boom.ru/tank/ll.htm

I noticed a strange coincidence, check near the end of the page:

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In short words: "Thank you, friends! You helped a lot!
But the second front in Europe in 1942 (or at least in 1943;
instead of almost useless war in Africa) would be much better..."


:confused:

'Nother: http://members.aol.com/forcountry/ww2/lus.htm

General production numbers:

http://members.aol.com/forcountry/ww2/ac1.htm

(WOW, in '44 Germany produced 40.000 planes!!! :eek: )

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« Reply #31 on: April 07, 2003, 11:20:58 AM »
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WOW, in '44 Germany produced 40.000 planes!!!

I looked at that table and it just doesn't seem right to me.  Probably better to check other sources before believing that one.  IMHO.

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« Reply #32 on: April 07, 2003, 11:29:44 AM »
Seemed strange to me too (but the German part was'nt so strange, I already heard about an incredible amount of planes produced in '44, in different and more credible sources).

BTW, was a 10 minutes search with google, for sure not the ultimate info.

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« Reply #33 on: April 07, 2003, 11:30:42 AM »
I'd believe it.  Germany was producing a hell of a lot of planes in 1944 and even through 1945-  they just ran out of the gas and pilots they needed to fly them.

Something like 35k Bf109s were made, and I forgot the number of 190s but it was in the high teens I believe.  Plus all the 'wonder weapons', bombers, attack planes, etc.  

I don't find it hard to believe that Germany made 40,000 planes in 1944.

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« Reply #34 on: April 07, 2003, 11:37:27 AM »
I think October 1944 was the highest aircraft production output month for germany in the whole war. In other words the strategic bombing offensive on aircraft factories was made ineffective by german responses and reorganization. There were always plenty of planes but no pilots and no gas - strategic bombing of oil and attrition of pilots were the key.

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« Reply #35 on: April 07, 2003, 11:41:41 AM »
Check out this pic of American Tankers,huddled fearfully around their tank in Baghdad.  


Tankers in sheer terror

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« Reply #36 on: April 07, 2003, 11:43:44 AM »
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
So you choose not to help the rest of Europe by opening up a second front with Hitler, and in fact sign a treaty with him... then your attacked... forced into war... and then whine about how we didnt invade France soon enough to help you?  Meanwhile driving our tanks and flying our aircraft the whole time your complaining?

Sorry Broda - but thats kind of rediculous.


Go read some books or keep silence - it will help you to look clever.

Go read something about USSR offering aid to Czechoslovakia in 1938. Go read about USSR/UK/France negotiations in August 1939.

Yeah, we did attack poor helpless Hitler to rape all Germans regardless of age and sex. Is it what they told you at school?

Indeed, god bless america. But even gods can't fight ignorance.

Good book to read: L. Mosley, "On Borrowed Time. How World War II began".

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« Reply #37 on: April 07, 2003, 11:44:40 AM »
I don't think the word given would be entirely correct.

"A price tag was naturally attached to all deliveries, with following typical fighter prices:
P-40 Kittyhawk - 44.900 dollars, P-39 Airacobra - 50.700 dollars and P-47 Thunderbolt - 83.000 dollars."

I have no idea how much of those they actually paid.

http://airforce.users.ru/lend-lease/english/articles/geust/aircraft_deliveries.htm
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« Reply #38 on: April 07, 2003, 11:44:45 AM »
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Check out this pic of American Tankers,huddled fearfully around their tank in Baghdad.

That picture was staged in Hollywood.  The real tankers are begging for mercy from the triumphant Fedayeen who attacked the evil invaders and are pushing them back to Kuwait.  Just wait and see.

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« Reply #39 on: April 07, 2003, 11:52:50 AM »
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Originally posted by Boroda
I am kindly waiting for a lecture about a combat in the city.

The most intersting part is what the tank crew should do if someone will drop a rag wet with petrol on their engine compartment, at the same time shooting at them from dozen automats.

You surely can't fight like Russians, because you don't have 1% of our experience of city combat. And because you fight for some weird interests of your financial groups, and never fought for your own land and freedom.

BTW, my family name should remind you of some episodes of a battle inside one big city...



Boroda..you're worth money. Okay... what is the prime factor in any defense? Come on brilliant boy..think... think ....

((ROLLS DRUMS))


MOTIVATION OF THE DEFENDERS....


Your missing this w/the Iraqi's. You can kiss your Stalingrad wish goodbye. When armored forces can PENETRATE the INTERIOR of a CITY w/little resistence it means...ITS OVER.

The Fat Lady is on stage and getting ready to sing comrade.

Enjoy
Of course, I only see what he posts here and what he does in the MA.  I know virtually nothing about the man.  I think its important for people to realize that we don't really know squat about each other.... definately not enough to use words like "hate".

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« Reply #40 on: April 07, 2003, 11:58:19 AM »
Hazed, thank you for opening my eyes. This is KGB who makes me post horror stories about street combat here. If I will not do it - they will send me to Siberia to clean the snow.

I don't believe in "liberation".

I don't believe in "freedom" that comes with tanks, cassete bombs and napalm.

Go tell about "good intentions" to someone else.

Intervent forces did all possible things to make Saddam the real leader of independant Iraq. Now he is a symbol of freedom that unites Iraqi people against agressors. They will fight you "on the beaches, in the land and in the sea".

As for your "aid" in early-90s - many thanks for the fact that we now have to work to pay IMF debts, that they gave on the conditions of destroying Russian economics.

Also thank you for your great lord Judd, openly supporting terrorists who blow up apartment buildings in my city and take hostages in theatres.

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« Reply #41 on: April 07, 2003, 12:00:50 PM »
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I have no idea how much of those they actually paid.


Every cent.

Some things were paid twice. USSR re-paid all the gold that was lost on HMS Edinbourgh, sank by British destroyers.

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« Reply #42 on: April 07, 2003, 12:07:11 PM »
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MOTIVATION OF THE DEFENDERS....


If they don't have motivation to defend their own land - the hell with them. Then their fate is to feed occupants.

So far they don't easily surrender.

I am 100% sure that Western media will do it's best to make everyone think they are so #uking eager to overthrow the "evil dictator". You can find enough collaborators everywhere.

Don't you know when Saddam suddenly turned out to be an "evil dictator"? When he nationalised Iraqi oil industry. He got some more support for murdering Iraqi communists in mid-70s. But nationalisation of oil industry was not forgiven.

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« Reply #43 on: April 07, 2003, 12:17:56 PM »
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I don't believe in "freedom" that comes with tanks, cassete bombs and napalm.

How did the Red Army convince the German armies to leave the Soviet Union?

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« Reply #44 on: April 07, 2003, 12:21:40 PM »
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I am kindly waiting for a lecture about a combat in the city.

You surely can't fight like Russians, because you don't have 1% of our experience of city combat.



Nope.. we don't fight in city combat like russians.  We're doing it without dying by the thousands.
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