flight model...

[vorticon]

how can any of you make comments on how realistic the flight model is if 60% of you have never seen a real ww2 warbird let alone flown one...how can you "notice" a few bugs in the FM if you dont know what the real flight was like...???
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just something ive noticed


and comparing it to your time spent in a cessna or a glider doesnt count

[Thunder]

What makes you think some of us haven't .. ya little wipper snapper!

"ThunderGeezer"

[vorticon]

note the percent sign...some of you have and you have every right to complain...

[XNachoX]

Originally posted by vorticon
how can any of you make comments on how realistic the flight model is if 60% of you have never seen a real ww2 warbird let alone flown one...how can you "notice" a few bugs in the FM if you dont know what the real flight was like...???
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just something ive noticed


and comparing it to your time spent in a cessna or a glider doesnt count

Back to your board troll.....go!  Geet on outta heah!
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[vorticon]

NOT UNTIL I EAT YOU OR YOU PAY THE TOLL!!! and the bigger brother thing no longer works...its part of our what not to do lessons HAHAHAHAAH

[XNachoX]

Originally posted by vorticon
NOT UNTIL I EAT YOU OR YOU PAY THE TOLL!!! and the bigger brother thing no longer works...its part of our what not to do lessons HAHAHAHAAH

I've got mace, and a very roudy gestapo!
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Misty tales and poems lost
All the bliss and beauty will be gone
Will my weary soul find release for a while
At the moment of death I will smile
It's the triumph of shame and disease
In the end Iliad
4,/JG 53

[vorticon]

mmmm mace...its a lot better than salt

[vorticon]

and the post has bee nhijacked...back on topic everyone

[Ductape]

Ooooohhhhhhhh Kkkkkaaaaaayyyyyyy!!
I can see this is a constructive, let alone productive subject. I can't see where it's going, but judging from where its been I will inform the powers that be to man the delousing tent!:eek:
I flew in P-3C Orion during Viet Nam and I can assure you, none of the flight models in Aces High are anything like it.

[vorticon]

nope...just wondering how it is tha tpeople can talk about flight models when theyve never flown a real ww2 warbird...

[F4UDOA]

Just because we haven't flown them doesn't mean that there aren't clear indicators of how an A/C should fly.

1. Speed

2. Stall

3. Climb

4. Roll

These are parameters of flight that can be measured and compared easily.

Stabilty is more tricky but then you have flight manual data that tells you how to trim an A/C for coordinated flight. Plus there is flight test reports that give detailed account.

Also I may never have flown a warbird but I have flown. So the "Feel of flight" is not that foriegn.

[udet]

vorticon: I think people with enough knowledge of aviation, maybe who have read some pilot reports on a particular airplane, can make judgements  on whether it is modelled correctly or not.
fyi gliders are a lot more maneuvrable than Cessnas, and that coupled with the stick and the cockpit arrangement makes them in my opinion similar to fighters in "feel", of course, removing the stick forces and the engine.

[Ductape]

OH!!
Something I forgot to add.
Dale (High Tech) HAS flown a real warbird. I KNOW I saw a picture of him somewhere looping a P51D. He also made this flight simulator. I am willing to trust his judgment because truthfully, I don't lose a heck of a lot of sleep worrying about the flight model.

[Kweassa]

Think of it this way vort.

 This problem does not just apply to this one case, but everything out there in the society.

 How do we discuss politics when we're not politicians?

 How do we discuss Monday Night Football when we're not pro-sportsmen?

 How do we look back on past moments when we weren't even born at that time?

 .......

 Flight modelling, I think, can be referred to as historical reconstruction. Just as historians reconstruct the past with factual data, and translate them in their terms with logic, developers model what they can with data, and critics discuss them with logic

[mora]

nevermind