All your base are belong to us!

[GtoRA2]

If that's true, that kinda makes Sadam worse the Hitler in my book. I didn't think that was posible.

As far as I know he did not round up German kids and throw them in jail for not joining the hitler youth...

Did he?


Another thread brought a back memories of Giligans island...

blintz reminds me of giligan, and sadam is the captain..

Making blintz Sadams little budy..

[blitz]

Originally posted by batdog
Okay..here is a hint. IF YOU DONT WANT TO POSSIABLY GET KILLED WHILE IN BAGDAD...leave. Your in a COMBAT zone. Yes..the US will TRY to avoid killing innocents but somewhere..somehow... somebody WILL f*&K up and mistake some poor slob as a foe.

I feel alot more sympathy for the poor local Iraqies caught in the crossfire.The reporters are just handsomehunkes

Was not by mistake the general said in TV.


Regards Blitz

[Martlet]

Originally posted by blitz
Was not by mistake the general said in TV.


Regards Blitz

He also said they were receiving fire from the hotel.  You can't just throw out parts of his statement so it fits your argument.  You've been listening to the anti american propaganda machine too long.

[blitz]

Originally posted by GtoRA2
If that's true, that kinda makes Sadam worse the Hitler in my book. I didn't think that was posible.

As far as I know he did not round up German kids and throw them in jail for not joining the hitler youth...

Did he?


Another thread brought a back memories of Giligans island...

blintz reminds me of giligan, and sadam is the captain..

Making blintz Sadams little budy..

Has nothing to do with Hitler.


The tanks were at that place all night.

They knew that there were mostly reporters in palestine hotel and absolutely no attack out of it.

Al Dhasira bureau was well characterized as reporters home.


Regards Blitz

[blitz]

Originally posted by Martlet
He also said they were receiving fire from the hotel.  You can't just throw out parts of his statement so it fits your argument.  You've been listening to the anti american propaganda machine too long.

Pappnase, if ya can read you see that in my first post.


"
American tank fired a grenade into the 15th floor, 2 reporters dead, 1 from Spain , 1 from reuters, several wounded  

Wasn't by accident as a general told. There had been gunfire out of the lobby to the american troops!

Ops, why did the tank than fires a grenade up to the 15th floor?

Ops, it was impossible to fire from the lobby. Lobby opens to the south, american troups was to the nw. "



Regards Blitz

[Martlet]

Originally posted by blitz
Pappnase, if ya can read you see that in my first post.


"
American tank fired a grenade into the 15th floor, 2 reporters dead, 1 from Spain , 1 from reuters, several wounded  

Wasn't by accident as a general told. There had been gunfire out of the lobby to the american troops!

Ops, why did the tank than fires a grenade up to the 15th floor?

Ops, it was impossible to fire from the lobby. Lobby opens to the south, american troups was to the nw. "



Regards Blitz

Again, you left out part of his statement to fit your propaganda.  Right after that, he said he misspoke when he said fire came from the lobbey, as he was not told where it came from.

[Ripsnort]

Some U.S. troops said they took fire from snipers on the rooftop of the hotel, while Brig. Gen. Vincent Brooks, a U.S. Central Command spokesman, said the fire came from the lobby area. He later said it was uncertain where it came from.

Other soldiers said tanks were taking mortar and grenade fire from in front of the hotel, and saw binoculars trained on them from an upper floor. Suspecting a "spotter" post, they fired.

Frightened reporters in flak vests ran from the hotel while their colleagues carried the wounded to the lobby. Al-Jazeera television showed two people being carried out on blankets and put into cars that took off, apparently for hospital.

Troops told journalists they should hang white sheets from their hotel room windows

Well, lets look at it this way, Blitz is running out of negative propoganda, so he's desparate to find anything bad about the war because he's been sooooooo wrong.

[Nwbie]

Report I heard on the radio from a female reporter(unsure of who--didn't catch name or news service) at the scene.
She said the forces had received sniper fire and had fired on the reporters balcony-they had spotted the camera on a tripod and thought it was a weapon, not sure if true or not - just what she had reported.

NwBie

[llyr69]

Is this the incident where the journalists were watching the tankers through binocs?

From the tankers perspective, that would appear to be a Forward Observer and I could very well see them taking a shot.

The journo's have been warned that they are in a war zone..........

Kinda curious about the "grenade" fired though-doe's the M1 even have the capability to fire frag grenades?

[Saurdaukar]

Blitz, since youre so fond of taking quotes out of context, Ive taken the liberty of twisting your own words to promote my own personal, oil driven agenda.

Originally posted by blitz
3 executions in 1 day sure doesn't look good

An apology would have been the minimum standart.

At least i wished to hear that there was an investigation goin on.

Could be the Baath Party overreacted, happens.

But the images were disgusting


Regards Blitz

There, by simply changing three words, we can twist your statement to show you what you SHOULD be focusing on.  Your redikulouz comments are getting more and more desperate - and whats more - you seem to possess the ability to spout off Weazel-like garbage while maintaining the increasingly annoying "passive, concerned, consciencious objector" status.

This is how I see the situation:

1.)  Coalition armor rolled in to secure an area.

2.)  Coalition commanders advised the press to hang white sheets from their hotel windows when present.

3.)  Reporters did not hang white sheets out of thier windows, and in fact, pointed a camera out of the window.

4.)  Iraqi's around and inside the building open fire on the Coalition troops and mortor rounds begin to come in.

5.)  Coalition field commander happened to notice the mortor rounds falling and looked around for a spotter... there he is... with a telescope or a pair of binoculars in the window... he's calling in rounds... 15th floor... FIRE!

6.)  Rounds hit 15th floor window and reporters are killed.

7.)  Arab, German, and French press jump to report the the "Masacre on the 15th Floor."

8.)  American commanders questioned about the deaths.  Response is the result of reading points 1-7... "Tough ****.  You cover a war - youre at risk.  You dont listen to our recommendations to ensure your safety - its not our problem.  If youre dumb enough to be pointing a camera at a tank platoon while they're taking mortor fire, the world is better off without you.  Next question."

Now get back under the bridge, Ive had just about enough "entertainment" for one day.

[blitz]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
Well, lets look at it this way, Blitz is running out of negative propoganda, so he's desparate to find anything bad about the war because he's been sooooooo wrong.

I don't need to find anything bad about this war.


This WHOLE 'Agression"war is bad



Regards Blitz





btw1: If we speak of Propaganda i would say this 'embbeded' reporter crap is similar in result as Propaganda Kompanie in WW2. And this result is not by accident or circumstances.

The difference is: In WW2 they were ordered what to report.

Today, the 'embeded' reporters work for news channels.

The news channels get their money out of the news, they sell.

If 'embbeded' reporters do report things, commanders don't like  ( i don't mean security stuff), they will get kicked out or don't see anything again.  It's a more suptile way of censorship than in former times.

That means their employer will lose money and they will be kicked outa job. The 'embbeded' reporters knows that very well.

Government lernt a lot from Vietnam War.

'Embbeded Reporters' have nothing to do with Free Press.

They are part of a big propaganda maschine, if they like it or not.


btw2 :    Reporders, who were not 'embbeded' were hindered by US forces all the time and that was not because of security, it was a plan to control media.

[blitz]

Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Blitz, since youre so fond of taking quotes out of context, Ive taken the liberty of twisting your own words to promote my own personal, oil driven agenda.


 

There, by simply changing three words, we can twist your statement to show you what you SHOULD be focusing on.  Your redikulouz comments are getting more and more desperate - and whats more - you seem to possess the ability to spout off Weazel-like garbage while maintaining the increasingly annoying "passive, concerned, consciencious objector" status.

This is how I see the situation:

1.)  Coalition armor rolled in to secure an area.

2.)  Coalition commanders advised the press to hang white sheets from their hotel windows when present.

3.)  Reporters did not hang white sheets out of thier windows, and in fact, pointed a camera out of the window.

4.)  Iraqi's around and inside the building open fire on the Coalition troops and mortor rounds begin to come in.

5.)  Coalition field commander happened to notice the mortor rounds falling and looked around for a spotter... there he is... with a telescope or a pair of binoculars in the window... he's calling in rounds... 15th floor... FIRE!

6.)  Rounds hit 15th floor window and reporters are killed.

7.)  Arab, German, and French press jump to report the the "Masacre on the 15th Floor."

8.)  American commanders questioned about the deaths.  Response is the result of reading points 1-7... "Tough ****.  You cover a war - youre at risk.  You dont listen to our recommendations to ensure your safety - its not our problem.  If youre dumb enough to be pointing a camera at a tank platoon while they're taking mortor fire, the world is better off without you.  Next question."

Now get back under the bridge, Ive had just about enough "entertainment" for one day.

In Germany we don't have Fox TV.

Nodody is speaking of a massacre in german Tv.

It's more like reporters are speechless about that attack and the reaction from Washington.


Regards Blitz



And don't forget : This is still an 'Agression War' on a sovereign country with violation of international law

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by blitz
I don't need to find anything bad about this war.


This WHOLE 'Agression"war is bad



Regards Blitz

Want to tell that to a few million Iraqis that were not part of the Ba'ath regime?

'Embbeded Reporters' have nothing to do with Free Press.

They are part of a big propaganda maschine, if they like it or not.


btw 2     Reporders, who were not 'embbeded' were hindered by US forces all the time and that was not because of security, it was a plan to control media.

Oh my...you have alot to learn young man.  Thank God we have imbedded reporters, this way it prevents the sources YOU listen to from reporting atrocities that never happened.

[Russian]

Blitz, you can come down now. It seems that Weazel is back…he’ll take over from here.

[GtoRA2]

Then blintz too, lol.

At least he has a little common sense left.