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Offline llyr69

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« on: April 10, 2003, 09:07:26 AM »
A very interesting chart of arms sales to Iraq by country.  Could make you wonder regarding the true motivations of some countries.........

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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2003, 09:18:11 AM »
Repost, but a good repost!

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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2003, 09:29:28 AM »
WTF!? :confused: Not even a Beretta 92 or a Benelli shotgun from Italy? ;)
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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2003, 10:44:04 AM »
gatt , everyone knows italy has fine guns, cars, olive oil, women, speed boats, etc, but we also know they are too expense.

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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2003, 11:08:56 AM »
Come on everyone knows that the 92 is a hunk of camel dung that even the iraq's would not want!

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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2003, 12:08:29 PM »
Cost of obsolete russian tanks and AK-47s purchased from USSR - gazillion dollars.

 Cost of a few drums of poison gas, satellite intelligence and weather info and targeting information  to use that gas with maximum effect "donated" by US - priceless.

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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2003, 12:43:24 PM »
I really have to wonder Miko, that if you despise the US so much, why the hell are you living here?
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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2003, 12:52:28 PM »
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I really have to wonder Miko, that if you despise the US so much, why the hell are you living here?


To suck off our economy like a parasite of course.

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« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2003, 01:16:50 PM »
That puts a whole new spin on those 'hilarious' mastercard spoofs. Makes a change.

Miko2d strikes me as an ultra-capitalist. He takes nothing from the State and pays his taxes from the sounds of it.
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« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2003, 01:22:15 PM »
All you need to do now is call him a democrat and this description will be complete.

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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2003, 01:28:22 PM »
Miko,

The nuclear reactor Russia was working with Iraq on tops any poison gas.  We all know that Iraq doesn't need the energy, being that they have the 2nd largest amount of oil reserves.  What a bunch of morons, give Saddam the bomb.

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« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2003, 01:58:53 PM »
AKIron: I really have to wonder Miko, that if you despise the US so much, why the hell are you living here?

 If you do not make distinction between US government and american nation, you are probably brainwashed beyong my help.

 Anyway, do you not believe that US provided Iraq with chemicals and components and targeting info, or do you not think it was a regrettable act?


 Dowding: Miko2d strikes me as an ultra-capitalist. He takes nothing from the State and pays his taxes from the sounds of it.

 You are mostly right. While I admit I've spent a few months on welfare,  I've been working since 1991 and for the last half-dozen years I was in the top 5-2% of income and paid a disproportionately great share of taxes.
 Also I do use state and State and City services - having no choice in that matter since private competition in education, transit and other areas is not allowed.

 BTW, there is nothing hyppocritical or contrary to my libertarian beliefs in me accepting welfare or government services - even if I had developed those libertarian beliefs by that time, which I didn't.

 I believe in voluntary transactions between informed individuals/institutions and in compliace with the law. Offering me welfare rather than a loan might have been counterproductive on the government's part but it was certainly voluntary and I was under no moral or legal obligation to refuse that money - even though I later came to believe that such system should be legally discontinued in favor of private charities. But if anyone wants to attribute to me the general "devil-take-the-hindmost", "natural selection" attitude, be my guest.


Puke: Miko, The nuclear reactor Russia was working with Iraq on tops any poison gas.

 I hope you are not operating under assumption that I am from Russia rather than from a country that was subjugated by various russian governments for the last few centuries.

 Providing Iraq with nuclear technology might have been a questionable act to do on russians part but you miss two major points. First, there is no proof that Iraq's nuclear program was any danger to US. Second, even assuming that Iraq's nuclear program could have become a danger to US - or more likely a deterrent for exactly the kind of invasion we've just performed, why does that make russians morons?
 They would only be morons if they were concerned about US interests of if that program threatened their interests. Neither of those is true.
 US and Russia and USSR before that has been competing through arming scum of the earth against each other's interests.

 Were americans morons because they created and armed Taliban? Becasue they toppled socialist regime in Iran in 1953 and caused ayatollahs to come to power? Because they brought Ba'ath to power in 1963, armed that regime and when it had internal troubles, supplied Hussein with the names of people to liquidate? When they supported and praised Hitler and Mussolini through the 1930s?

 One must be very arroigand or have god-like compex to assume that any action against his country interests by other countries is moronic. Hostile, maybe. Incompetent, usually. Hardly moronic.

 miko

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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2003, 07:07:47 PM »
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I hope you are not operating under assumption that I am from Russia rather than from a country that was subjugated by various russian governments for the last few centuries.

I made no assumption about where you are from and it has zilch to do with the argument.
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Providing Iraq with nuclear technology might have been a questionable act to do on russians part

Might?  There is no need for nuclear energy in Iraq, what do you think it was for?
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why does that make russians morons?

Saddam + nuclear bombs = Russian morons.

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« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2003, 08:18:36 PM »
this guy writing from behind French lines is a genius, must be our Frogmans alter-ego; a great Baghdad Bob comic strip in there also

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« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2003, 09:29:52 PM »
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If you do not make distinction between US government and american nation, you are probably brainwashed beyong my help.

Anyway, do you not believe that US provided Iraq with chemicals and components and targeting info, or do you not think it was a regrettable act?


I do in fact understand that the US government exists for and is representative of the American people. Very much unlike many other parts of the world, where the government leeches off and oppresses it's citizens. Maybe that's why you left to come here?

I don't know what the US sold or gave to Iraq prior to '90, and neither do you. I do believe that we neither gave nor sold them anything in violation of any UN resolution since.
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