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Offline Ripsnort

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« on: April 10, 2003, 09:39:45 AM »
Since the left is running out of things to complain about...here is one they can say "See?  We just turned their world upside down!"

You guys are so predicatable, I figured I'll just give you your fuel that you need that keeps you thinking you're in the right. ;)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A2862-2003Apr10.html

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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2003, 10:16:29 AM »
boy animal my internet rules now!

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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2003, 12:03:49 PM »
That author - HAMZA HENDAWI - simply does not understad what's going on.

 Only at first glance it is strange why US and british troops are not enforcing public order and theft or destruction of the property that rightly belongs to the Iraqi people - since the "evil regime" and Ba'ath are no more.

 The more looting and burning and killing and destruction of records and displacement of people happens before the order is restored, the more difficult it will be to assess the civilian casualties caused directly by US/UK weapons vs. those blamed on iraqis themselves after their civil order has been disrupted.
 It's not much but it will help us in the future PR campaign.


 BTW, why do our marines bother toppling the statues? Our goal was to topple the actual guy, which we did or are very close to doing. Wouldn't it be better to leave the toppling and destruction of the statues to the actual iraqis? There certainly are some that would want to do so. That would at least indicate that they hated the regime, etc.
 Or maybe they would have left some statues in place like Ukrainians did the statues of Lenin - not only those are parts of their heritage and landmark people grew up with but most importantly the constant reminder of the past and warnings for the future.

 miko

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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2003, 12:16:33 PM »
Phew..

And I was really afraid we were no longer going to enjoy the soviet fantasy view of this war since the GRU reports stopped..

Tell me miko just how much does it piss you russians off that we were able to take almost a whole country in only three weeks while destryoing no cities and being welcomed as liberators with hugs and kisses while the best your boys coud do in years and years in chechnya was to flatten their cities and recklessy kill tens and tens of thousands?

Actually I now understand the dour soviet view on this war, it must be going bad for the USA since we have not yet destroyed a single city, not one!!! Ut simply isnt a war of liberation unless  at least one major city is razed to the ground!

Thanks for the comedy miko :D

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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2003, 12:18:11 PM »
taking is usually no problem. it's holding that is a squeak.

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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2003, 12:29:31 PM »
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The German Embassy, a three-story off-white building in the center of al-Karada district, was also sacked. Looters emerged with air conditioners and computers. Looters also cleaned out the French Cultural Center and Odai's house, the Arab TV network Al-Jazeera reported.


I guess the Iraqi's were watching the news all along!

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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2003, 12:30:40 PM »
LOL poetic!! :D

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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2003, 01:16:46 PM »
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Originally posted by miko2d
That author - HAMZA HENDAWI - simply does not understad what's going on.

 Only at first glance it is strange why US and british troops are not enforcing public order and theft or destruction of the property that rightly belongs to the Iraqi people - since the "evil regime" and Ba'ath are no more.

 The more looting and burning and killing and destruction of records and displacement of people happens before the order is restored, the more difficult it will be to assess the civilian casualties caused directly by US/UK weapons vs. those blamed on iraqis themselves after their civil order has been disrupted.
 It's not much but it will help us in the future PR campaign.


 BTW, why do our marines bother toppling the statues? Our goal was to topple the actual guy, which we did or are very close to doing. Wouldn't it be better to leave the toppling and destruction of the statues to the actual iraqis? There certainly are some that would want to do so. That would at least indicate that they hated the regime, etc.
 Or maybe they would have left some statues in place like Ukrainians did the statues of Lenin - not only those are parts of their heritage and landmark people grew up with but most importantly the constant reminder of the past and warnings for the future.

 miko



HAHAHA

Your whimpering is getting weaker, but nice effort.

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« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2003, 01:19:09 PM »
GRUNHERZ, you handsomehunk, get it into you thick head that I am not a russian, neither am I from Russia but from Ukraine - a country that was suffering under the oppressive rule of russian governments for over three centuries until 1991 - much like Chechnya and a number of other subjugated provinces of the former Russian empire.

 In the Russia-Chechnya conflict my sympathies are certainly not on the russian side. I surely regret that chechens were not able to inflict enough casualties on the russian troops to achieve independence.
 The fact that losing the Chechnya, stopping the chronic warfare and reducing the role of military mafia in the russian government would greatly benefit democratic and economic development of Russia would be just the icing on a cake.
 The whole world would have also benefited from their experience. When the future socialist economists teach the students how 13% flat tax did Russia no good, they will surely forget to mention there was a war going on.

 Anyway, you should really stop making dumb assumptions based on the imaginary locality of my birth.


and being welcomed as liberators with hugs and kisses

 When germans were "liberating" Russia and Ukraine from bolshevik rule, they were also mostly greeted with hugs and kisses. Later when soviet troops were liberating same area, they were greeted with hugs and kisses. I believe the same is true about your native land.
 Iraqi know they are beaten - I believe the spread of TV and radio are responcible for that. You cannot fool a soldier that resistance makes sense because situation is good elsewhere. They can see. So they surrender, ho gome or switch to our side like Taliban peopld did. Some live to fight another day, whatever.


 How about the subject itself. Do you really think it was a captain-level decision to let iraqis loot their state property and settle scores unimpeded? For every dollar of damage they cause now - by removing crucial equipment, wire, piping, documentation, etc, many times more will be needed to replace and fix it and the sude-effects of destruction - making those same iraqis dependent on the largesse of benevolent occupation authorities that much longer.
 Wouldn't it be a proper time to show iraqis that we stand for law and order? Didn't we denigrade Saddam Hussein a few month ago for giving amnesty to criminals in prosons and releasing them into the streets? What do you think those criminals are doing right now with the cover of occupation forces?

 miko

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« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2003, 01:21:52 PM »
I know you are Ukranian...

Yes I admit the USA is letting the looting go on to cover up for the 859,376,978 civilan deaths - yes thats true and indesputable. Think how stupid that sounds miko...

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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2003, 01:40:55 PM »
I wish they had a voting deportation system.

If you got X number of votes, they sent you back to your country of origin.

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« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2003, 02:13:11 PM »
miko hates americans and america and sends his kid to a russian school , but he loves to make big american dollars and live in nice american house and drive nice car and not have to stand in line to buy tolet paper and meat. also no KGB to knock on door in middle of night.

but as soon as the world finds out the american dollar is worthless, miko will move to canada or brazil or france
« Last Edit: April 10, 2003, 02:16:47 PM by john9001 »

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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2003, 02:17:56 PM »
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miko hates americans and america and sends his kid to a russian school , but he loves to make big american dollars and live in nice american house and drive nice car and not have to stand in line to buy tolet paper and meat. also no KGB to knock on door in middle of night.

but as soon as the world finds out the american dollar is worthless, miko will move to canada or brazil or france


He had no trouble taking American welfare.

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« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2003, 02:38:19 PM »
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I wish they had a voting deportation system.

If you got X number of votes, they sent you back to your country of origin.


But where would we send dip****s like you ?
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« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2003, 02:54:36 PM »
GRUNHERZ: Yes I admit the USA is letting the looting go on to cover up for the 859,376,978 civilan deaths - yes thats true and indesputable.

 It may be the result of oversight or incompetence or someone's decision to muddle the water.
 It is not as essential why it is really going on but what a billion muslims and other people on this planet will believe.

john9001: miko hates americans and america and sends his kid to a russian school

 I understand that imagining other people's motivation is considered an acceptabe practice, but where the heck did you get that other crap? My kid is 18 months old. I wish I had any idea what school he is going to attend.

 miko