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Offline Frogm4n

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« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2003, 02:57:28 PM »
mexico fdski, land of the super non socialist privatised everything.

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« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2003, 03:10:19 PM »
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Since the left is running out of things to complain about...here is one they can say "See?  We just turned their world upside down!"

You guys are so predicatable, I figured I'll just give you your fuel that you need that keeps you thinking you're in the right. ;)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A2862-2003Apr10.html



Pre-emtive strikes are forbidden for very good reasons.

It's sad that Bush & Co chosed the side of evil  :(

It's a good thing that Saddam & CO are gone and Iraq people have a new chance now but that is only collateral dammage of Bush politics anyway. Was never an important goal for them.

It's the cloud of haze Bush and CO are hidding behind trying to fool anybody on this planet.

All they do is to look for american interests and nothing as american interests. If another country has it's benefits from their politics it's ok for them, nothing more, it isn't a goal. The one and only goal is the strengh of their very own country.

Bad enough US administration is follow their unilateral politics, Kyoto Protocoll, Landmine Protocoll (what do they need all the mines for->pre-emtive?), International Court D-Haag->for all countries but not for me because i'm God)

International community is  only an adress of blackmailing or abused for own interests.

I said abused in the last sentence because it's nothing wrong about serving your country but all that PROPAGANDA about fighting for a 'Free World' is nothing like one big lie.

I don't talk about american people here, i talk about a bad government.


Flamesuit on , please call me names :D



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This war is wrong, unjust, unnessasary and cost the lives of thousands of innocent people and wounded tenthousands. The government of one country decided who's to live and who's to die for all the countries of this planet. Bush and the hawks in his government are dangerous for the civilised world. Keep an eye on them!




When germans were "liberating" Russia and Ukraine from bolshevik rule, they were also mostly greeted with hugs and kisses. Later when soviet troops were liberating same area, they were greeted with hugs and kisses.  So true .
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« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2003, 03:11:55 PM »
sorry miko , i got you confused with another communist that lives in america and sends his kid to a russian school.

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« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2003, 03:25:54 PM »
Did Blitz say something??

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« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2003, 03:26:36 PM »
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sorry miko , i got you confused with another communist that lives in america and sends his kid to a russian school.


offcourse babtist sending his kid to church school is fine, he just wants best for his kid.
Catholic sending his kid to catolic school is fine as well, just what's best for the kid.
Mormon sending kids to mormon schools is ok too.

But you, Miko, are just a whoopee russian communist !!!!
From ukraine !!! Of all places !!!

you know John, he's almost your neighbour, i mean ukraine does border with Georgia, and that's just a stone throw to florida !!!

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« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2003, 03:32:21 PM »
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Bad enough US administration is follow their unilateral politics, Kyoto Protocoll, Landmine Protocoll (what do they need all the mines for->pre-emtive?), International Court D-Haag->for all countries but not for me because i'm God)


Kyoto Protocoll is bad law, 3rd world nations would have no polution restrictions and US would have unreasonable restrictions placed on it, most nations did not sign it anyway.

Landmine Protocoll , the US has developed a landmine that will degrade over time and become inactive, making the protocall moot.

International Court D-Haag, you judge your crimes , we will judge ours, International law is what nations agree on, the US does not agree to let you judge us, arrogant ? yes , but no more than the french.

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« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2003, 03:36:24 PM »
fd ski , i did not call miko a "Golly-geemed russian communist " , i called him a "communist".

if you think he's a"Golly-geemed russian' , thats your opinion , not mine

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« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2003, 03:39:10 PM »
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Pre-emtive strikes are forbidden for very good reasons.


Name three

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It's sad that Bush & Co chosed the side of evil  


By that are you saying Frogs and Cabbageheads are on the side of good?

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It's a good thing that Saddam & CO are gone and Iraq people have a new chance now but that is only collateral dammage of Bush politics anyway. Was never an important goal for them.


Name the goals you think they're after

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It's the cloud of haze Bush and CO are hidding behind trying to fool anybody on this planet.


What the mystery they are trying to hide?

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All they do is to look for american interests and nothing as american interests. If another country has it's benefits from their politics it's ok for them, nothing more, it isn't a goal. The one and only goal is the strengh of their very own country.


Thats exactly why I voted for them

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Bad enough US administration is follow their unilateral politics, Kyoto Protocoll, Landmine Protocoll (what do they need all the mines for->pre-emtive?), International Court D-Haag->for all countries but not for me because i'm God)


How was the action against Iraq unilateral? I believe it conformed to every resolution called for by the majority of nations in the UN.  The only nations I know of who tried to undermine UN authority was france, germany and russia.  Wasn't it france and some others who called for another resolution?   The U.S. agreed to one, but why bother with a second proposal when it's common knowledge it will be voted against before it's even submitted?

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International community is only an adress of blackmailing or abused for own interests.


Haven't a clue what you just said

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I said abused in the last sentence because it's nothing wrong about serving your country but all that PROPAGANDA about fighting for a 'Free World' is nothing like one big lie.


Since you were born in a country that has done nothing but start a war for domination I can understand why this must seem foreign to you.

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I don't talk about american people here, i talk about a bad government.


As I told you before Blitz I do take offense when you talk bad about my government.  You want to complain about it then get over here become a citizen and vote otherwise STFU.
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« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2003, 03:45:06 PM »
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Originally posted by john9001
Kyoto Protocoll is bad law, 3rd world nations would have no polution restrictions and US would have unreasonable restrictions placed on it, most nations did not sign it anyway.

Landmine Protocoll , the US has developed a landmine that will degrade over time and become inactive, making the protocall moot.

International Court D-Haag, you judge your crimes , we will judge ours, International law is what nations agree on, the US does not agree to let you judge us, arrogant ? yes , but no more than the french.


Was US who supported International Court bigtime , my friend.

Guess it's only for countries without WMDs, though :D


Regards Blitz





This war is wrong, unjust, unnessasary and cost the lives of thousands of innocent people and wounded tenthousands. The government of one country decided who's to live and who's to die for all the countries of this planet. Bush and the hawks in his government are dangerous for the civilised world. Keep an eye on them!




When germans were "liberating" Russia and Ukraine from bolshevik rule, they were also mostly greeted with hugs and kisses. Later when soviet troops were liberating same area, they were greeted with hugs and kisses. So true .
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« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2003, 04:43:56 PM »
john9001: sorry miko , i got you confused with another communist that lives in america and sends his kid to a russian school.

 Your brains must be really addled today if you can confuse a communist with an ultra-right free-market private-everything libertarian.
 
Let me check
 No government involvement in economy.
 No welfare system or social programs.
 No money issued by state - private money or gold standard or whatever market comes up with only.
 No centralised control of anything besides military and justice system.
 Free trade - no tariffs of controls.
 No federal environmental protection agency.
 No FDA.
 No state ownership of land.
 No state involvement in education.
 
 Yeah, real easy to confuse with communist views. :rolleyes:

 Watch out if you have to drive today... :)

 miko

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« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2003, 04:50:36 PM »
Odd sentence. Unless you're down there vacationing and have a serious case of BB come road rage. :eek: :rolleyes:

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 Watch out if you have to drive today... :)

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« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2003, 05:01:46 PM »
""Watch out if you have to drive today... ""

i always watch out when i drive, i thought that was how it was suposed to be done.

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« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2003, 05:24:02 PM »
Arlo: Odd sentence. Unless you're down there vacationing and have a serious case of BB come road rage. :eek: :rolleyes:

 Oh, no - I just ment that he did not seem to be thinking clearly. Maybe he had a sleepless night or a flu or took drowsiness-causing medication or there is something else that can affect his judgement. So I advised him to be carefull.

 I am certainly not offended but just amused that someone could confuse a communist with a libertarian - though it's more likely a common culural trend here to call all political opponents "communists" but mostly among illiterate americans which he isn't. So no hostile feelings on my part. No reason for paranoia.

 miko

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« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2003, 05:31:33 PM »
miko , no offense taken, you and i always disagree, but thats life.

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« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2003, 05:41:58 PM »
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