Pre-emptive

[Arlo]

Ahhh ... ok, gotcha. Just for the record, since I really haven't read all your posts ... are you a communist or a libertarian?

Originally posted by miko2d
 I am certainly not offended but just amused that someone could confuse a communist with a libertarian

[miko2d]

I am as libertarian as they come - a complete individualist this side of anarchism. Next to "paleo-conservatives". Opposite of a communist which is a total collectivist. Way beyong socialists like republicans, democrats, neo-conservative, etc. Very strong government that does nothing but protects life, property and enforces contracts.

 No economic involvement, no social tinkering, no religion, no education, nothing. Basically, military and judicial and the rest through voluntary human interaction, private enterprise and competition. Whatever people believe should be done by the government, they can do in their towns and states, not through federal or UN or world government.

 I've posted quite a thread here on rights, liberty and the rule of law, if you care to search and get the idea of the whole libertarian position in one place.

 miko

[Puke]

Only at first glance it is strange why US and british troops are not enforcing public order and theft or destruction of the property that rightly belongs to the Iraqi people - since the "evil regime" and Ba'ath are no more.

Wouldn't it be better to leave the toppling and destruction of the statues to the actual iraqis?

Miko,

Our military is the best in the world, but you give it way too much credit if you think it can fight a war AND police every citizen.  You are wacked.  
As for the statue, the military were only bystanders until some Iraqi citizens asked for help in toppling it.  I see no problem in that.
Miko, you continuously make every effort you can to put the name of the USA in a bad light.  It really shows just what you are.

[Airhead]

Originally posted by Martlet
I wish they had a voting deportation system.

If you got X number of votes, they sent you back to your country of origin.

Martlet, you're a sharp guy who raises great points in most debates. However, when you ask that Sandman be banned for being "too liberal," or advocate a deportation system that recommends people who disagree with you be deported, you come across as being intolorant.

Maybe this isn't the "right" bulletin board for you. Maybe you should be posting on a white supremist board, or an American Nazi Party board, or some other board that doesn't tolorate dissenting opinions. As long as you post here people will post things you don't like, and rather than ask Skuzzy to ban all of them it might be best if you left instead.

Whatever, just sayin...personally I like your arguments (agree or not) but I have a tough time with the advocation of censorship you endorse so often.

[Arlo]

Oh nonono. That's ok. I was just curious. I'm happy to be an independent moderate without a party platform that includes stuff I don't agree with along with the stuff I do. Carry on.

Yep ... just curious. Didn't know. Now I do.

Thanks.

Originally posted by miko2d
I am as libertarian as they come. Very strong government that does nothing but protects life, property and enforces contracts.

 No economic involvement, no social tinkering, no religion, no education, nothing. Basically, military and judicial and the rest through voluntary human interaction, private enterprise and competition. Whatever people believe should be done by the government, they can do in their towns and states, not through federal or UN or world government.

 I've posted quite a thread here on rights, liberty and the rule of law, if you care to search and get the idea of the whole libertarian position in one place.

 miko

[miko2d]

Puke: Miko,
Our military is the best in the world, but you give it way too much credit if you think it can fight a war AND police every citizen.

 Except that I've heard the officer explain on TV that they are not preventing any citisen from looting and do not intend to do so.

As for the statue, the military were only bystanders until some Iraqi citizens asked for help in toppling it.

 Again, I saw it myself on TV - US or brits pulled the statue with an armored vehicle and no iraqi within few dozen yards. I certainly do not claim that our troops poled down every single statue.

Miko, you continuously make every effort you can to put the name of the USA in a bad light. It really shows just what you are.

 Right, I am a concerned american.
 Why would I be worried about cleaning somebody else's house rather than fixing problems in my own? I do not care much how corrupt russian or iraqi or french governments are. Those governments are problems of those peoples.
 I am an american. The Founding Fathers warned americans to watch federal government for encroachment on rights of americans.
 I don't give a damn what the foreigners may think about US from my posts. It's not like they are going to do anything about it - no state secrets disclosed here. I don't see why you are so concerned about their opinion.

 miko

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
Since the left is running out of things to complain about...here is one they can say "See?  We just turned their world upside down!"

Rip, a least those that are of the anti-war opinion had the courage to actually chose a side.  I recall that prior to the war you were very much of the, gee I don't know what to think side.  And now you are sitting there suggesting that you actually chose a position.

As in football, as in life eh?  Didn't have the fortitude to pick a stupid team to win the superbowl.  Didn't have the fortitude to chose a stance on the war.  But you'll sure as hell try to act like you were the "winning" side all along.

[Martlet]

Originally posted by Airhead
Martlet, you're a sharp guy who raises great points in most debates. However, when you ask that Sandman be banned for being "too liberal," or advocate a deportation system that recommends people who disagree with you be deported, you come across as being intolorant.

Maybe this isn't the "right" bulletin board for you. Maybe you should be posting on a white supremist board, or an American Nazi Party board, or some other board that doesn't tolorate dissenting opinions. As long as you post here people will post things you don't like, and rather than ask Skuzzy to ban all of them it might be best if you left instead.

Whatever, just sayin...personally I like your arguments (agree or not) but I have a tough time with the advocation of censorship you endorse so often.

Could you point me to a few of those boards?  I could get some recruiting done, and move them over here to combat the recent influx of Baroda's cronies.

[Arlo]

Pakistani "anti-war" (anti-America) protesters. All we are saaaaaying .... is give peace a chaaaaaance.

[vorticon]

anti war doesnt mean anti american...

[Arlo]

Sometimes it does though, doesn't it?

[vorticon]

i suppose so...

[Hangtime]

Miko!

only an 18 month old kid? What happened to the daughters you were gettin ready to send to the Air Force Academy? The ones you trained to handle rifles before you taught 'em about sex...??

Did they form a union?? Start thinking for themselves? Be careful Miko.. nothin worse fer a insular controlling dominating daddy with messed up political platforms than a disillousined daughter with a rifle.

Oh, and please post some more of that libertarian drivel.. I have sooooo much fun debunking it.

Watch out if you have to drive today...  

You too, now.

[Rasker]

Originally posted by Arlo
Pakistani "anti-war" (anti-America) protesters. All we are saaaaaying .... is give peace a chaaaaaance.

that's ok, there are some equally well-armed Iraqi kids who'd be happy to take them on  

[vorticon]

honestly i think those kids are likely to kilkl each other before anyone else...that truly is worse than nazi germany...those kids are doing it under there own free will and that just makes me SICK