Author Topic: Fighter Town (Read 5701 times)

DrDea · « **Reply #120 on:** April 16, 2003, 10:16:23 PM »

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I think it has gotten beaten down to scrambled eggs already, NB busted his A** to come up with something different, LOTS of players like Trinity, cuz the other maps get boring, when resets happen in half a day, gangbang hordes reduce the amount of players who are willing to up into 30 to 40 cons porking the fields with no other options. No, it is a step in the right direction, he essentially helped rid the arena of the tendencies of players to just circle and vulch. He has admitted he is not happy with the map as a final product, he has agreed to a lot of the suggestions, he has repeated himself to the illiterate many times that coding was a limit to some of the suggestions. Don't know what more he can say, I know that many players including myself like it when Trinity is up, you can play with what you got or head to H2H arena and set up indestructible fields and have a ball. I am sure that HT wants you as a client, but I am also sure that he would advise you to go find a better game to your liking if you are not happy, no one wants an unhappy customer..The point is, guys like NB do this for free, try thank you once in awhile, or do a better job designing a terrain yourself, as i know it does not require programming skills, just a lot of patience and learning how to do it.

Whoa whoa whoa We will brook no voice of reason in this thread.That has been allready proven to the point of rediclous.Please post reasonable statements elsewhere. Thank you for your time.

lazs2 · « **Reply #121 on:** April 17, 2003, 08:03:56 AM »

nwbie... that's all very touching but... i just fired somebody that was "busting their a**. I think a couple of people liked him too.

Your speech would have been all the more inspiring if I were simply one disgruntled person and infinity got reset in anything like a reasonable length of time.

In short... nice speech... not much content.

let's just say I will be glad when it is fixed.

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's

Nwbie · « **Reply #122 on:** April 17, 2003, 12:27:42 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
nwbie... that's all very touching but... i just fired somebody that was "busting their a**. I think a couple of people liked him too.
Did you see anywhere that NB got paid to do this? So basically he has no boss to fire him, I also have fired people, a few that liked to point out how other people screw up and provided nothing substantial to make the changes required to pacify them.
I dont think NB needs to pacify any of us. HiTech Creations is who you need to complain to, and funy I agree with a lot of what you are saying, and NB agreed with a lot of what you are saying, but in all your posts you continue to piss on the wrong fire hydrant....

OK, so you want to reset the arena, Lots of peeps do, I played AW lots of years--same damn boring map--still was fun, what is reasonable? takes like 1/2 a day in Mindanoa--that sucks, NDisles takes prob average 1 day - that sucks, AK'Desertpizzawhatever takes 3-4 days probably, Trinity takes a long time--but what do you want? You want early war era planes, I agree, I like em 2, NB likes em 2, BUT, the circumstances of this map reduce the possibility of using them, Big friggin deal.......there will be more maps, which to me is a nice thing to be looking forward to, guys like NB and the AK's map maker tried to improve the game by changing it themselves, I didnt help at all, you didn't help at all....you are good at the game, I respect that, you don't make maps, it is ok to complain, but if ya wanna bet on the beaten horse.... it is a waste of time..... most bosses would be concerned about an employee who can't see a dead end...do you?

LOL and this had content?

I believe NB said that he will do what he can do within the code limitations, will you accept that?

As for sticking up for a friend, never met NB personally, was a help to me back in old AW games, helped lots of peeps, most of the peeps in my squad went thru a NB education so yes he is considered a friend in a sense, he helps others enjoy the flight sims, and I know you do 2, this wasn't pointed at you personally Lazs, and I get the sense you took it personally, I am sorry if it was taken that way, all I said was NB answered all the questions at least 5 times, I know that his answers showed a lot more patience than I would have shown

I hope NB can make the changes that will pacify you to a certain extent, but I also know based on his responses, you will not get what you want with the trinity map, it is not possible, it is a Hitech concern, so like NB said
Contact HT and see how you can contribute

NwBie

Jackal1 · « **Reply #123 on:** April 17, 2003, 01:19:31 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
nwbie... that's all very touching but... i just fired somebody that was "busting their a**. I think a couple of people liked him too.
lazs

Irony is alive and well.

lazs2 · « **Reply #124 on:** April 17, 2003, 02:16:08 PM »

well... I guess we just don't understand each other... I don't care if he got paid or not... it doesn't affect my enjoyment of the map one way or the other. The way the map is I would just as soon it didn't exist. My point is that I fire people who try hard but don't get the job done and.... I don't take something useless just because it is free.

as for wanting to reset the map.... I could care less... give me one good map and we could stay on it forever... I have probly been online 3 or 4 times tops when a map was reset... I don't care about resets or, even less, about who resets em.

I would also disagree that nobad answered my questions 5 times... In every case he either missunderstood what I said or.... volunteered more info.. I would say this whole process has been useful. go back and read through the exchanges.

Anyhow...if the maps get fixed... who cares?
lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's

Jackal1 · « **Reply #125 on:** April 17, 2003, 05:49:28 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
The way the map is I would just as soon it didn't exist. My point is that I fire people who try hard but don't get the job done and.... I don't take something useless just because it is free.
Anyhow...if the maps get fixed... who cares?
lazs

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Sorry dude , but it does exist and we fly it. Another one of them little pesky facts you will just have to live with.
You don`t take something useless because it`s free? According to your numerous statements, such as the one above, you find Trinity useless. Also according to your previous statements, such as the one you made online last night, you find AK desert useless. You have been on both of them and your paying $15.00 a month for it. What`s wrong with this picture?

As fot the map being "fixed" it`s not, you can`t fix something that is not flawed. NB is trying to incorporate some of the things you have been requesting. NB asked if everyone thought if he should go ahead and put the effort into this or if he would be waisting his time. You certainly answered that question.

lazs2 · « **Reply #126 on:** April 18, 2003, 08:52:21 AM »

gee jakal... you're the spokesman for both the community and for nobad? He seems capable of speaking for himself.

let's just see how this all shakes out. In the end...I bet we don't have these wonderful maps of pizza and infinity running four weeks straight tho. You might have noticed that you are one of the only people who like infinity running.... well, allmost infinitely. So.... "sorry dude".
lazs

Jackal1 · « **Reply #127 on:** April 18, 2003, 10:12:09 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
gee jakal... you're the spokesman for both the community and for nobad? He seems capable of speaking for himself.

let's just see how this all shakes out. In the end...I bet we don't have these wonderful maps of pizza and infinity running four weeks straight tho. You might have noticed that you are one of the only people who like infinity running.... well, allmost infinitely. So.... "sorry dude".
lazs

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I speak for a lot of folks, especialy those who appreciate all the hard work that peeps like the AKs and NB have put into making the maps and the efforts towards making the game enjoyable. You are correct about NB being able to speak for himself, he has done so, trying to explain to you what is being done and the guidelines he has to follow. I can`t say much for your ability to comprehend what has been said thus far though.

Yep, I like Trinity, but, I`m far from the only one that does. Do you ever read the posts or pay any attention to people in the game or do you just not understand what they are saying?
As far as how it shakes out and how long future maps will run, well we`ll just have to see, want we?

Going by the interview with HT a couple of months back I would say AK desert and Trinity is sort of the shape of things to come. You realy should try to keep up here.

The one thing I can say for 100% certainty, as I`ve said before, is that the only choices you will have is to either play the game as it is set up at any given time or not to play it. Them`s just the facts mam.

DrDea · « **Reply #128 on:** April 18, 2003, 10:25:47 AM »

Oh boy here comes the I must get the last word in cause Im right and my post count proves it and ,and,and,....But I digress. While I was flying in the free month just past,I heard alot of good comments on trinity.I heard very little bad.Unlike when the pizza map came out.Seeing as how the complaint crowd is ALWAYS more vocal,I would say that a months worth of a heavy majority of praise says pretty much what the average responce in this thread does..Deal with it and no,not everything is going to be just the way you want it.I dont know how many diffrent ways that can be said.Ive counted about 5 so far.To make it 6,take your complaint to HT.

lazs2 · « **Reply #129 on:** April 18, 2003, 10:37:48 AM »

drdea... why don't you just get an account and fly infinity for a couple of endless months? After that we can hear your opinion of it and why you either like or dislike it... fair enough?

lazs

DrDea · « **Reply #130 on:** April 18, 2003, 10:57:09 AM »

Ive been a member of the Flying Circus since Jan 01.I flew the trinity map.I flew the Pizza map.As far as getting an account,I will as soon as I rebuild my burned out hulk of a computer case. What your not getting here is NB,whom I dont know never met has said repetedly,He didnt place the fields.HT did.Seems that your not comprehending that HT is the one you need to argue your point with.NB has repetedly said he is going to try to get it fixed.You still argue the pointless point to him.This is a guy who Im sure spent endless hours building a map which you feel you have the right to complaign about.Being a paying customer allows you to voice an opinion sure,but going on and on about something that cant be fixed for the most part by the ones your harping to is not only tedious,its getting to the point of childish.Take your arguement to HT.As far as me flying Trinity?When Pizza map came around I didnt squeak about it and I hated it as much as the next guy for the same reasons of taking forever to reset so I went to CT.

lazs2 · « **Reply #131 on:** April 21, 2003, 08:41:58 AM »

drdea... if you believe that then you didn't read the exchanges between nobad and myself... and while I have nothing against someone who doesn't know a thing about the game chiming in... It is getting tiresome.. we have guys who don't play the game telling us how great infinity is and we have guys who get half a kill and hour telling us what action is.

You guys are entitled to your opinion... it's just not worth much.
lazs

DrDea · « **Reply #132 on:** April 21, 2003, 10:02:55 AM »

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and while I have nothing against someone who doesn't know a thing about the game chiming in... It is getting tiresome..

First of all,Ive been in this game longer than you have it seems even with a 4 month layoff of playing.Secondly,I dont see anyone on this board saying anything about people who dont know the game chiming in except for you.Thirdly,the only tiresome ranting going on is your incessant "I want it my way and I want it now." I do everything IN the game while you fly fighters to the exclusion.Better check overall stats before you go running the yap off to someone when they have more experience in overall gameplay than you ever will. Have a nice day.

StracCop · « **Reply #133 on:** April 21, 2003, 01:35:17 PM »

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Originally posted by Furious
no, just three fields all in one sector, each with non-destroyable strat and uncapturable.

bet it'd be packed.

Sounds just like Air Attack.
And in that game you did spawn in mid-air and you're right - it was a blast! You only landed to repair damage. Oh, and it was unlimited ammo and fuel. You flew till you were dropped!

David

Jackal1 · « **Reply #134 on:** April 21, 2003, 01:46:47 PM »

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Originally posted by StracCop
Sounds just like Air Attack.
And in that game you did spawn in mid-air and you're right - it was a blast! You only landed to repair damage. Oh, and it was unlimited ammo and fuel. You flew till you were dropped!

David

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Exactly , an arcade style game with point and shoot in mind. Nothing wrong with that if that`s what trips your trigger, but , certainly in no way related to a flight sim including strat, supply and demand, capture, etc. such as the gameplay in AH MA.