Author Topic: Reboot (Read 631 times)

FOGOLD · « **on:** April 10, 2003, 05:47:01 PM »

I have an agravating problem. When I try to shut down Winxp, it goes through the "now shutting down windows" routine but then reboots as though i pressed the "restart" tab instead. Second time round it shuts down fine. I cannot figure out why it is doing this. I don't think it's doing any damage as the programme shuts everything down properly, but it's driving me nuts!

I have turned all power management off and set pC to " always on". Also disabled the autostart function in the error managemant and recovery thingy. (If you turn of power management on the BIOS WinXP doesn't like it and won't boot.)

I have read that if you have Roxio installed it causes this, but I don't. I have a CD RW, but also a clean install of WinXP + Sp1 and I can't find any reference to Roxio anywhere. I havn't got round to putting Nero back on yet.

I know some piece of hardware is causing this, but which. I've tried unplugging the network.

FOGOLD · « **Reply #1 on:** April 11, 2003, 03:54:09 AM »

Hmm, think I found it.

HKEY_LOCAL MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon Set "PowerDownAfterShutdown" value to 1 from 0.

Why the hell it should be set wrong in the first place after a clean install brats me!

Nilsen · « **Reply #2 on:** April 11, 2003, 07:15:55 AM »

did you somehow during the installation of XP or later set the system to "laptop" mode?

FOGOLD · « **Reply #3 on:** April 11, 2003, 12:20:43 PM »

I doubt it, but you never know. Oh, and I was wrong about the above. It still does it!

Oh, and Hi Nilsen;)

Reschke · « **Reply #4 on:** April 11, 2003, 03:24:48 PM »

What pisses me off about WinXP is that since I installed SP1 I now get boot/reboot times of nearly 3-4 minutes whether its from a cold start or from a restart. Not sure what the issue is but I am killing my current motherboard soon and will see what happens with the new ASUS A7N8X Deluxe board.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #5 on:** April 11, 2003, 03:28:21 PM »

Lot of people had a lot of problems with SP1 for XP.

bloom25 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 11, 2003, 06:55:05 PM »

I can tell you how to go about troubleshooting this:

Your system is rebooting because Win2k and WinXP will do this if you get a bluescreen error.

I believe under control panel -> system -> startup and recovery there is an option for "reboot after system error" or similar. If you uncheck this and apply the changes the system will freeze at the blue screen and give you time to read it.

(Note, you will have to hit the power button to shut down the system.)

Also, what are you system specs? I've been seeing a LOT of WinXP SP1 systems with PCI video cards having shutdown problems.

bloom25 · « **Reply #7 on:** April 11, 2003, 07:06:51 PM »

Hmm, I re-read your post and it looks like you might have changed this already. The option is in that same startup and recovery area.

Reschke, I've seen this on some XP SP1 systems also. There are a few things that are likely culprits:

1. You have onboard Lan that is enabled (in the bios) but not used. Windows XP SP1 will take a long time to boot if this is the case. (Turn off onboard Lan in the bios.)

2. Onboard firewire (IEEE1394). Same story, but this isn't something you really want to disable (unless you have no need for firewire.)

3. Onboard Highpoint or Promise ATA/RAID controller. If you aren't using it, disable it.

BTW: The A7N8X deluxe has onboard firewire, and Serial ATA raid. If they aren't in use and enabled it takes WinXP a while to boot up. Just as a side note, board revision 2.0 A7N8X deluxes are starting to hit the market. This board revision is supposed to have a new nForce 2 chipset stepping which can supposedly support 400 MHz FSB Athlon XPs when they are released. If you can, be sure to get one of these. (The previous boards were revision 1.06 and 1.04. They may be able to take 400 MHz FSB Athlon XPs when released with a bios update, but that's not yet official.)

Reschke · « **Reply #8 on:** April 11, 2003, 07:17:30 PM »

Thanks for the heads up on the Nforce2 board revision Bloom. I will check and see what I have turned on in the bios also. I don't have an onboard promise chip and I took the ATA133 promise card out of the system since my ATA-133 hard drive died on me a few months ago. I will check into which board I am going to get before I leave the store with it. I remember my days of selling this stuff and having to check if guys were buying Intel Celery 300a's. If not they did not want them.

Reschke · « **Reply #9 on:** April 11, 2003, 07:33:21 PM »

Well I cut about 30 seconds off my reboot time. Now down to the 3-3:30 range after discovering boot virus detection was on in the bios as was onboard LAN detection. Still to me that is unacceptable. I had a Win98SE machine that booted in <45 seconds from a cold start and could boot my old WinME machine in about the same time. My Win2k machine at work boots in less than a minute as does the Win98SE I have sitting on my desk there. I remember somewhere that WinXP was supposedly faster on a boot up process but I just don't see it.

I don't remember what it was prior to installing SP1 back in the fall but I think it was allot faster than what I have now. The current motherboard is on the way out of the system as is the PC2100 DDR (2 sticks of 256MB)

BTW here is the current system specs:

AMD Athlon T-Bird 1.4GHz, 512MB PC2100 DDR, ASUS A7V266, Abit Siluro GF4 Ti4400, Diamond MX300, 3Com 905B TX 10/100, TEAC 24x10x40 CDRW, ADSL connection, WinXP Home SP1, DX9 and MORE FANS THAN YOU CAN SHAKE A STICK AT!

bloom25 · « **Reply #10 on:** April 11, 2003, 07:57:41 PM »

It's definately a good idea to get a Rev 2.0 if you can.

Enjoy that system, I just built (for a friend) a:

A7N8X Deluxe (rev 1.06)
2500+ Barton
Vantec Aeroflow Heatsink/Fan (very nice btw)
512MB PC2700 DDR
Radeon 9700 Pro

It absolutely flies. Coupled with an AC3 Dolby Digital decoder, it's truely amazing to play games on.

It's significantly faster than my:

A7N266-C (nForce 1 415D chipset)
Athlon 2400+ (OC to 2133 MHz)
Same heatsink
512 MB PC 2100 DDR
GeForce 4 Ti 4200 (OC)

(The second onboard NIC and Serial ATA controller are disabled to speed up the boot process. I didn't time it, but it seems to boot Win2k Pro in about 45 seconds or so. Turning off the SATA controller made a big difference.)

FOGOLD · « **Reply #11 on:** April 12, 2003, 01:45:00 AM »

Boot times are good on my machine. I don't get any blue screen with "automatic restart" disabled, which means theres nothing wrong, it is simply restarting.

I don't understand about Roxio. Is Roxio installed with XP, but not shown as such? I have read that Roxio ships with XP but see no reference to it.

I don't want to try the "update Roxio" fix for reboots if there is no Roxio on the machine. Theres certainly nothing in Add/Remove programmes.

Thanks for the input guys.

Reschke · « **Reply #12 on:** April 12, 2003, 02:00:42 AM »

Thanks again Bloom. For now I am just getting the board but after my birthday and bonus money from work I will up the CPU and RAM and might even grab a 9800Pro if I have enough left over.

FOGOLD,

It's like Roxio lite that comes with XP. Its nowhere near as fast as the real program and that is something that I can't handle. I gotta have speed when I am cranking out a few disks and backing up my weekly backups with the business software we use for quoting and orders. Without Roxio (that came with XP) I have a CD that wrote in nearly 12 minutes. With Roxio that came with my CDRW it burns the same CD in less than 3 minutes. Its not a huge CD and its only datbase information so its not like it has to render a 3D scene then put it on the disk

AtmkRstr · « **Reply #13 on:** April 15, 2003, 10:53:30 AM »

I had the same problem, but I can't remember what on earth I did to fix it.

Try searching on Google Groups (usenet). That's where I found my solution.

icemaw · « **Reply #14 on:** April 16, 2003, 02:32:21 PM »

Winxp boot wierdness. If I try to reboot the system it locks up. If I boot from a powered down state it boots fine.

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