Author Topic: The relative firepower of AH fighters (Read 838 times)

TimRas · « **on:** April 12, 2003, 03:06:48 AM »

I have compiled a list of relative firepower of fighters of AH. The gun power values of various guns have been obtained from Tony Williams' excellent website:
http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/WW2guneffect.htm
These values are summed according to the gun setup of each plane. Each sum is then scaled so that the value of 1.00 is the most common gun layout of US fighters (6*.50 cals). All the other values are the relative firepowers to this.

The actual AH gun power values are probably not exactly the same as the values obtained by Tony, but I think they are close enough. The other factors like effective range of various guns, grouping, ammo load, and effect of synchronisation is not taken into account.

1. Me262 ............................. ......................6.44
2. Bf 110G-2 (2*30mm+4*20mm)..................5.36
3. Fw 190A-8 (2*30mm+2*20mm+2*13mm)...4.56
4. Bf 110G-2 (2*30mm+2*20mm)..................4.29
5. Me163-B.................................................3.22
6. Tempest...................... ...........................2. 78
7. Ta152........................ ............................. 2.68
8. Mosquito Mk VI........................... .............2.44
9. Fw 190A-8 (4*20mm+2*13mm)..................2.40
10. Hurricane IIc, Typhoon, F4U-1C.................2.22
11. Bf 109G-6,G-10 (1*30mm+2*13mm)........1.88
12. Fw 190A-5 (4*20mm+2*7.7mm)...............1.88
13. Bf 109G-6,G10 (3*20mm+2*13mm)...........1.87
14. Bf 109G-2 (3*20mm+2*7.7mm)................1.71
15. Spitfire IX (2*20mm+2*.50cal).................1.44
16. Yak-9T..................................................1.38
17. P-47D...................................................1.33
18. Spitfire V,XIV, Seafire...................... .......1.33
19. Fw 190A-8, F-8, D-9 (2*20mm+2*13mm)...1.33
20. N1K-J....................................................1.33
21. C.205........................ ............................1 .27
22. P-38L....................................................1.22
23. La-7......................................................1.19
24. Fw 190A-5 (2*20mm+2*7.7mm)................1.18
25. Ki-61-I-KAIc...........................................1.11
26. P-40E,P-51D, F4F-4,F6F-5, F4U(excl. -1C), A20G...1.00
27. Bf 110C-4b............................................0.92
28. A6M5b........................ ..........................0.8 5
29. Bf 109E-4..............................................0.81
30. Yak-9U.................................................0.81
31. Bf 109G-6 (1*20mm+2*13mm).................0.80
32. La-5FN.................................................0.79
33. A6M2......................... ..........................0.7 1
34. P-51B, FM-2..........................................0.67
35. Bf 109F-4, G-2 (1*20mm+2*7.7mm).........0.64
36. P-40B...................................................0.56
37. Spitfire I, Hurricane I............................ ..0.44
38. C. 202.......................... ........................0.31

Batz · « **Reply #1 on:** April 12, 2003, 03:49:05 AM »

Good work but as you said its

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The other factors like effective range of various guns, grouping, ammo load, and effect of synchronisation is not taken into account.

that matter most. The Hizookas are probrably the most effective gun in ah then the 50s considering those "other factors".

vorticon · « **Reply #2 on:** April 12, 2003, 09:07:38 AM »

tempest doesnt have nearly the firepower of the mosquito(wich has hte highest firepower of any british plane 4x 20mm hispanos & 4x .303 mg's)

thrila · « **Reply #3 on:** April 12, 2003, 09:24:28 AM »

I think the Hispano mk.V in the tempest has a higher rate of fire than the Hispano mk.II in all other brit planes.

moot · « **Reply #4 on:** April 12, 2003, 10:11:51 AM »

where's the 152?

TimRas · « **Reply #5 on:** April 12, 2003, 10:57:10 AM »

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Originally posted by moot
where's the 152?

Oops, forgot Ta152, its added now.
The reason why the Tempest is better than Mossie is that the rate of fire of Hispano V was increased from 600 to 750rpm. This has much more effect than the extra 4*.303 in Mosquito.

Regurge · « **Reply #6 on:** April 12, 2003, 02:30:58 PM »

The A20 only has 6 .50cal in the nose and the turret cant point directly forward. It should be 1.00.

TimRas · « **Reply #7 on:** April 12, 2003, 02:40:11 PM »

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Originally posted by Regurge
The A20 only has 6 .50cal in the nose and the turret cant point directly forward. It should be 1.00.

OK, corrected

moot · « **Reply #8 on:** April 12, 2003, 08:29:54 PM »

thanks tim

didn't expect it so high and above mossie.

Suave · « **Reply #9 on:** April 12, 2003, 09:01:43 PM »

Dont forget that 12.7mm bredas fire HE .

WldThing · « **Reply #10 on:** April 12, 2003, 11:48:05 PM »

Typhoon didnt make the list?

Batz · « **Reply #11 on:** April 13, 2003, 12:49:08 AM »

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10. Hurricane IIc, Typhoon, F4U-1C.................2.22

Furball · « **Reply #12 on:** April 13, 2003, 09:57:45 AM »

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Originally posted by vorticon
tempest doesnt have nearly the firepower of the mosquito(wich has hte highest firepower of any british plane 4x 20mm hispanos & 4x .303 mg's)

Beaufighter had 4 hispano's, 6 forward firing 303's and one in rear turret. There was also a version with 50 cal's instead of the 303's, Im not sure but i think it had 4 of them.

Dr Zhivago · « **Reply #13 on:** April 13, 2003, 10:36:47 AM »

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Originally posted by Furball
Beaufighter had 4 hispano's, 6 forward firing 303's and one in rear turret. There was also a version with 50 cal's instead of the 303's, Im not sure but i think it had 4 of them.

RAAF Beaufighter mk21 got those four .50 cals in its wings...

Furball · « **Reply #14 on:** April 13, 2003, 11:50:27 AM »

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Originally posted by Dr Zhivago
RAAF Beaufighter mk21 got those four .50 cals in its wings...

cool! where can i get one? would love to faceshoot them damn niki's in it