Final Meals

[UserName]

Originally posted by Cherlie


eg

Two 16 oz. ribeyes, one lb. turkey breast (sliced thin), twelve strips of bacon, two large hamburgers with mayo, onion, and lettuce, two large baked potatoes with butter, sour cream, cheese, and chives, four slices of cheese or one-half pound of grated cheddar cheese, chef salad with blue cheese dressing, two ears of corn on the cob, one pint of mint chocolate chip ice cream, and four vanilla Cokes or Mr. Pibb

and that is jsut one guy

CB

Look where that guy is from

[rc51]

Wow and he got 50 bucks!!
What a tard!

[UserName]

Yeah, the majority of those death row inmates are like that, killing and raping for 20 bucks. The scum.

[rpm]

The really sad part is they are segregated from General Population. Would probably save a lot of time if they just stuck them in there, plus it would "enhance" their confinement experience. "You look purdy in them dungarees..."

[straffo]

Statisticaly it look like that eating hamburger and french fries can be deadly ...

[funkedup]

Clearly, all who eat hamburgers are murderers.  

[straffo]

Originally posted by funkedup
Clearly, all who eat hamburgers are murderers.  

Damm !

That's really a frightening stat !

[StSanta]

So chaps

This is a genuine question regarding sociology and culture, and before I put my inout in, I'd like to have yours.

Why do you think the US has a much higher rate of $50 dollar murderers, serial murderers, mass murderers and generally much more violent criminals than, for instance, Scandinavia?

Things worthy of considering in this context; population density, homogenous vs hetereogenous society, conservative/pious vs liberal (19th century libertarian sense) society, violence in media, repressed emotional and spiritual being, welfare programs, feeling of alienation, narcissism and self destructiveness. Of course there are more points of interests that than, but those are just the immediate ones that springs to mind.

Would like input from anyone with views with some thoughts behind and would like to keep it a non US/Euro bashing thing; am just going by the numbers for Scandinavia vs the US right now.

That said, humorous and less humorous one liners are bound to find their way here and those are of course welcome too

[Martlet]

Originally posted by StSanta

Why do you think the US has a much higher rate of $50 dollar murderers, serial murderers, mass murderers and generally much more violent criminals than, for instance, Scandinavia?

 

I've yet to see anything showing the US does have a higher rate of $50 murders.

[straffo]

well ...

You obvioulsy have more 50$ murderer than 50£ or 50€ murderer ...


Ok I'm a bit to drunk => gonna have a rest

[StSanta]

Well, looking just at murder rates, here are the 1991 figures:

Murder rate (per 100,000 people, 1991 figures):
United States 8.40
Canada 5.45=20
Denmark 5.17
Germany 4.20
Norway 1.99
United Kingdom 1.97=20
Sweden 1.73
Japan 1.20
Finland 0.70

Source can be found here

The US had in 2000 the lowest murder rates in over 30 years -  at 7.02 per 100,000 people. For Scandinavia the average is (5.17+1.99+1.73+0.70)/4 = 2.4, which is significantly lower than the US stats even for today. Danish murder rate has since '91 declined and is more in line with the other Scandinavian countries.

Perhaps more telling is the following figure:



Source can be found here

My claim was that the US had more violent crimes or more specifically more serial murderers and impulse murders or more murders in general. I was implying that it was a more violent society - despite having the death penalty as a 'deterrent', whereas Scandinavian countries don't.

Anyway, on that table it is quite clearly visible (using the 1993 figures): US had 443 serious assauts per 100,000 people, a country like Denmark had 179. The US in other words having nearly 250% more serious assaults. Looking at murder figures:
US at  9.5 in 93, Denmark at 4.8. Even using the lowest-in-30-years 2000 figure, there's still a substantial difference.

What the figures don't show are what I call the Psycho killers and Stranger Killers. Psycho killers being serial murderers, of which this countriy hasn't seen many at all. We had a mass murderer here  -  a Danish national that killed his mother while in the US and then killed a potato and her two  children before chopping them up and disposing of the bodies. Anyway, I've gone through those death row records and see that there are lots of people there for either killing multiple people or for raping and then killing women. This is uncommon here when compared to the US. Stranger killers is to me people who murder someone they haven't met before - a la killng after a rape, or in road rage or the like, although whether that is manslaughter or murder would depend on the DA, so never mind that.

I guess I should dig some to see if I can get comparative numbers in this regard. And as I said, I'll spare my comments on the matter until I've seen others, in order to not taint the discussion too much. I suspect however that one part of the explanation that will be put forth will be the 'race issue', as there are some works out there on that, including one made in Whitney which has been proven utterly false, but if you got other sources, post 'em.

Martlet, if you need more references or the like, ask and I'll dig some more. Just sorta in a hurry right now, so will do it a bit later if necessary.

[Martlet]

however, total crimes committed in 2000 per 100,000:

10,242.80 compared to the USA's 8517.19.

according to unodc.

[AWMac]

*note to self: Never carry anymore than $49.50*

[Curval]

Originally posted by Cherlie
Some of them just wanted a pot of tea.

I'm pretty sure some tea or coffee is about all my stomach could take knowing I was about to be put to death.

[Sixpence]

I remember when the Patriots were playing the Pac in the '95' SB. I read an article how in LA. they were averaging 1.1 homocides a day. They warned people in bourbon st. not travel in certain areas. You only have to travel a few blocks to find the real bad part of town. But I think that has to do with local government addressing the problem, not the nation as a whole. Most areas of the country are quite the opposite.

To stop crime, you sometimes have to stop the elements that create crime, gambling,prostitution, drugs&alcohol. Here in Ma. we have a town called Melrose. It is a "dry town" (no packy in town). So you won't find bums walking around with bag of booze in their hand. It's up to people in the community to get involved with local officials to set policy.

That is what makes this country so great, the people have the power to change things themselves. They just have to take the time to get involved. Instead of policy being set for us.