About this 'ditching' crap

[Joc]

Being what you might call a 'fanboy' of AH,I never post complaints as Im a happy chappie with the game....UNTILL NOW!!! to me there is ONE thing that MUST be changed,and that is this STUPID rule of a belly landing on a friendly airfield being counted as a ditch if not on runway,ITS A HOME BASE DAMN IT! it should be counted as a landing,anywhere outside the boundries of the airfield sure,make it a ditch,but the other night,returning to base after getting 7 hard earned kills in my Spit,with my U/C damaged,I belly-landed on the runway only to slide about 1 foot off the runway and guess what... A FRIGGING DITCH!,lets get real,anywhere on a friendly airfield should be a landing ,the aircraft/pilot is safe AND recoverable,please sort this out.I dont want to have to kick another sheep......

[Replicant]

I know what you mean.  They should allow you to spend 1 perk point for a tractor to come out and tow you on the runway! j/k  Would be cool though!

Hey JOC, you got that pic of you still where you resemble Grant Mitchell?  I GOT to have it, I'll email you the results, it'll be very amusing!

[ccvi]

If with a dead engine you can't touch down within 100 yards from the landing point you won't get a pilot's licence. Keeping an aircraft on the runway is required but not sufficient. A belly landing where the landing gear is not damaged due to battle damage should not be considered a landing even if on the runway. Tons of perk points should be deducted, the crew chief wont be happy.

[ALF]

I do think a happy medium should be reached.  Landing on the runway should be the prefered and more rewarded option, but the idea of losing any credit (and eeeeek   200+ perk points) for being 10 feet awat is just silly.   I would think that we keep landings as they are, but award 2/3 perk earnings with NO LOSS OF ANY PERKS for any landing within the immediate airfield within X feet of tower, allowing reasonable overshoots.  This of course would also require a new kill message "You forced ALF to ditch", and be added to the scorign system somehow.


But if all that is more trouble to code than its worth....lets just say that anything within 50 yards of pavement is golden

[sling322]

Today its the base perimeter....next week its an extra 5 feet.

Never ending cycle.  Put it on the runway and quityersqueakin'!!!

[rshubert]

I am a history channel/wings channel junkie, and one thing I have noticd is that many ww2 airbases didn't even HAVE runways.  How many times have we all seen the pictures of the spits and hurries taking off, line abreast, across the unpaved field during the battle of Britain?  Heck, the original tests of the taildragger me262 were on a grass field!

I guess my point is that landings that end up off the pavement should not be ditches if they are on the airport property.  But that's only my opinion.  I do think that belly landings should be ditches, on or off the airport, since the a/c would not usually be repairable.

[ergRTC]

We have this in the CT for our finland map.  No airfield, anywhere on the base is fine.  Of course it looks fantastic and would never be seen in the MA.  Amazing how many guys biff it into trees on the take off.

[Tilt]

I think wheels up landings should be ditches (of sorts) where ever they are................. however wheels down landings should count anywhere on the field (or within a certain distance of the tower)...........    dead sticking for instance

...........changed my mind............ I did not think it thru...........

it would be simpler if safe landings were declared within the field perimiter..............just make the whole base graphic a "runway" object albeit with the grass a bit more bumpy.

[BigGun]

How about just put it on the runway! We all know the consequences of not landing on runway, so why whine when you failed to do what is required for a successful landing?

I have had my share of "ditch" landings that were on or near the base, but never have thought to myself, geez..that isn't fair!!!!

[AKWarp]

So if a guy in WWII scored 5 kills and lands his plane back at his base, slides off runway because of damage, or what have you, they took his 5 kills away from him?

Silly.

On the field is on the field.  For that matter, any landing a pilot walks away from alive "counts".  But, since we want to try to limit something in the game, anything "ON" the field should count as long as you don't crash and burn.

[JB66]

What I've always been told, "Any landing you can walk away from is a good one".

[hazed-]

Originally posted by AKWarp
So if a guy in WWII scored 5 kills and lands his plane back at his base, slides off runway because of damage, or what have you, they took his 5 kills away from him?

Silly.

On the field is on the field.  For that matter, any landing a pilot walks away from alive "counts".  But, since we want to try to limit something in the game, anything "ON" the field should count as long as you don't crash and burn.

amen

[john9001]

in AH you don't "lose" your kills when you ditch, you just don't get the "eleet landed 25 kills in a lala7" msg to tell everyone how "bad" you is.

[Tilt]

Originally posted by AKWarp
So if a guy in WWII scored 5 kills and lands his plane back at his base, slides off runway because of damage, or what have you, they took his 5 kills away from him?

Silly.

On the field is on the field.  For that matter, any landing a pilot walks away from alive "counts".  But, since we want to try to limit something in the game, anything "ON" the field should count as long as you don't crash and burn.

Your kills are still on the score  board even if you die .......never mind if you ditch or not  .......   no kills are taken away.


Wheels down for full honours say I ........... any thing less is something less...........

[BlauK]

Consider this:

"A perk plane (e.g. Me262) is rtbing with 5 kills and runs out of fuel just before runway. Its engine stops and magically the plane now glides too fast to stop in time before the runway ends..."

The pilot has two options.
1) try to make a safe and clean landing like the real pilots would, but end up on the grass... get a "ditch" result with less point and lose the perk points.
2) push the plane on the runway so hard that it breaks the gear, makes a belly landing and stops on the runway... get a "landed" result with more points and save the perks.

What would you do? Why?... because the system has a flaw!

IMO landing on the gear 10ft away from the runway should always be better than breaking the plane in landing.

Three simple suggestions to correct the flaw:
-"Landing" zone should be the whole base perimeter
-"Landed" result only from landing on the wheels. Belly/crash landing anywhere would always be a ditch.
-Perk points would be lost only if one cannot exit the plane (landed or ditched) inside a frindly base perimeter.