Author Topic: Israel to take out Syria? (Read 1724 times)

Martlet · « **Reply #30 on:** April 15, 2003, 05:30:26 AM »

http://www.satirewire.com/briefs/virtualpalestine.shtml

bozon · « **Reply #31 on:** April 15, 2003, 05:32:20 AM »

lol matlet

Martlet · « **Reply #32 on:** April 15, 2003, 05:38:12 AM »

Heh, actually, I just couldn't remember where I had seen it.

No specifics mentioned, but here's the real link.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/04/13/sharon.settlements/index.html

bozon · « **Reply #33 on:** April 15, 2003, 05:40:26 AM »

hangtime:

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She propogates terror by grinding palestininas under her heel, is standing in violation of UN resolutions, has refused to cease espionoge activities within our borders, continues to sell US technology to proscribed nations, refuses extradition of american citizens wanted in this country for murder, has used duplictious means to secure funding, has violated the terms for that funding... etc etc etc.

I can only agree on your statment till the second comma. The rest is a load of crap.

is standing in violation of UN resolutions - when the UN wasn't going the US's way it was ignored too. One only have to get a quick look at the UN's doing in southern Lebanon to see why this organization is a joke.

refused to cease espionoge activities within our borders? - you mean the US is not involved in any espionoge activities within Israeli borders?

continues to sell US technology to proscribed nations? - such as? the US won't let Israel sel it's own technology to coutries such as china (does that threatens the US too?). and the US sells weapons only to enlightened democracies.

refuses extradition of american citizens wanted in this country for murder - true, that case was a legal loop hole. still LEGAL, and the man was trialed.

has used duplictious means to secure funding? - ??

Bozon

Hortlund · « **Reply #34 on:** April 15, 2003, 05:49:00 AM »

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Originally posted by Martlet
No specifics mentioned,

Trust me, the Golan heights is the last place the Israelis will give up. Well maybe East Jerusalem too, but you get the idea.

I thought he was talking about the settlements in the west bank.

Hortlund · « **Reply #35 on:** April 15, 2003, 05:51:39 AM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
I think america will wake up to the fact that Israel is NOT an ally of America in any meaningful way any damn day now.

Sorry Hang, but you're wrong here. If it wasnt for Israeli intel, the war on terror would be a true waste of time. Israel is the only US ally that has intel resources in the Arab world.

X2Lee · « **Reply #36 on:** April 15, 2003, 05:54:26 AM »

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Originally posted by Hortlund
W H A T?

Did the Israelis offer to give up the Golan heights?
Link please.

If israel gives up the golan heights they will be at war in months.
Israelis dont like motar shells lobbed at them from the high places.

Martlet · « **Reply #37 on:** April 15, 2003, 05:59:36 AM »

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Originally posted by Hortlund
Sorry Hang, but you're wrong here. If it wasnt for Israeli intel, the war on terror would be a true waste of time. Israel is the only US ally that has intel resources in the Arab world.

I'd have to disagree. Well, sort of.

I really hate the term ally, since what it boils down to is who has interests in seeing you be successful. The current war is a prime example. Sure, countries like Australia, UK, etc will most likely stick together through most things for some time to come, but look at Russia. We were hand in hand until a few months ago.

Why does Russia not support the war in Iraq? Because they were in bed with Saddam. Same with France. I'm not trying to get on that topic. You could apply the same to the US in any number of copies. I'm just saying that our "allies" change with our presidents, and what our current goals are. Just like everyone elses.

As far as Intel, I'd be extremely hard pressed to believe our only intel is Israel. I served with SOS/MIF team 202 in South America, and I was amazed at where we got our info. One thing I learned is, if you've got the cash, your worst enemy would sell his mother for it.

StSanta · « **Reply #38 on:** April 15, 2003, 11:26:57 AM »

Geeh, yer really a hostile little bugger eh Martlet? I ain't out after yah, so relax a bit bud

Yes, your insinuations make a lot of sense.
That's probably why just this week they offered to give up space in order to cease hostilities with Syria.

I'm insinuating nothing, really. What I am saying directly is that if the US wants to go to war against Syria but cannot find popular support, using Israel as a proxy is a possibility.

That way, the relationship between Europe and the US won't be strained so much more, same with Arabs (compared to direct US intervention, which would scare 'em a lot). And there is a general sentiment that the US isn't so bad - it's just controlled by Zionists - amongst Arabs. So it is not entirely impossible that such a thing can be pulled off.

That's all I'm saying. Not sure what you refer to when you say I insinuated something? Just palying it out in my head to see if it is possible or feasible. As to what the US will do, I have no idea. But Bush will reveal that soon enough.

Lighten up bud

bozon · « **Reply #39 on:** April 15, 2003, 11:40:57 AM »

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That way, the relationship between Europe and the US won't be strained so much more, same with Arabs (compared to direct US intervention, which would scare 'em a lot). And there is a general sentiment that the US isn't so bad - it's just controlled by Zionists - amongst Arabs. So it is not entirely impossible that such a thing can be pulled off.

this doesn't make any sense. If the zionists control america then Israel would fight syria through a proxy (the US)... It didn't happen in the last 50 years.

the accusation as if 5 million people country, on the edge of the western world (with some 3rd world aspects) controlls the 300 (?) million people western super power is rediculous.

straffo · « **Reply #40 on:** April 16, 2003, 02:24:42 AM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
Maybe you should tell us so that we can know if your an idiot or very deep. Read my post again. I spotted you the U and the S.

just re-read you post.

I completly mis-translated the last sentence,if you english writer cab stop using funky sentence strutures life would be easy for me

sorry to have jumped on you,please accept my apology.

Sixpence · « **Reply #41 on:** April 16, 2003, 02:39:59 AM »

Isreal put a pretty good deal on the table, but they held out for more, so Isreal took the deal off the table. Now that Sharon is in they won't see a deal that comes close to the old one.

StSanta · « **Reply #42 on:** April 16, 2003, 05:13:00 AM »

Bozon it IS ridiculous, i agree completely! Which is why I was surprised to see interviews in Syria with men at cafés - one of them saying 'the Americans, the real Americans...they are good enough. But they are being mislead and controlled by the Zionists!'.

Others expressed similar sentiments. So it is there, no matter how absurd.

Eagler · « **Reply #43 on:** April 16, 2003, 05:54:46 AM »

whatever happens, syria will now do it with alittle less cheap oil