Online Player Behavior (or lack thereof)

[Fury]

Why doesn't everyone just be quiet and let HTC handle screenshots in whatever way they see fit?

Fury

[Wanker]

A couple days ago, someone lost their temper and said "XXX diddly YOU!" on the open channel.

Since my little boy was watching me fly, I typed in "Watch the language, please".

The person who swore in the first place responded "Blow me, banana! If you're little snot-nosed kid is watching, kick him in the head!"

*Sigh*

I wish people would lay off the radio buffer if they need to vent.

[Ripsnort]

In the infamous words of Rodney King.......
OUCH OUCH OUCH !

[BagPiper]

Besides, I don't think that smack talk on channel one really hurts the sim that much.

If HT believed it did, you can bet your bellybutton there would be a naughty word filter on it.  I've talked to HT a fair bit, and if I was to put my money down on what he thought of channel 1 and bbs whining and berating, I'd bet that we doesn't give a flying F**K squared.

banana, I'm sorry you had a little one who saw more "adult" language while watching you, but I'm sure the fine print of both your ISP and HTC covers this, and if you were to say "my 5 year old has access to the PC, and I don't want him seeing this in AH", I've got some real bad news for you:  Pictures of horrific sex acts, people who have actually been shot, you name it is usually the first thing kids (not so young as 5, but won't be long) look for on the internet usually.  Seeing "F-OFF" is likely one of the more tame things to be seen.

The last comment that was said to you "kick him in the head" is grounds for banishment in my book, as it constitutes an assualt in my country, and is hands down one of the stupidest things I've seen/heard here.  Swearing/taunting will always be with online gaming, but threatening/violent remarks from keyboard commandos who probably couldn't fight their way out of wet paper bag with a sword shouldn't be tolerated.

[This message has been edited by BagPiper (edited 09-14-2000).]

[Westy]

 Yup. Been alot of that crap the past week banana. Most of it from piddly hugahunks on thier two week free trial.  Even I have been squelching on average three "people" each night I've flown.  It's a shame but it's the nature of the Internet too. Not the least is a lack of any class on the part of just a few.

 Bagpiper, if you read this topic http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum1/HTML/005293.html    you will see that HiTech DEFINATELy cares about all of this. I believe he hopes the community can tackle and resolve the problem through setting the example.

   -Westy

[This message has been edited by Westy (edited 09-14-2000).]

[Nath-BDP]

I said that I could beat RAM 1v1, 2v1, 3v1... I didn't say "lets duel", why? Because I already beat him in a duel 4-1.

[Nath-BDP]

I wish you people would stop posting false quotes and putting words in my mouth.

[miko2d]

 RAM,
 accusing someone of intentional warping is accusing him/her of cheating.
 If you really believe that someone is hacking the game, you should make a film and send it to HTC.

 It is obvious you are ignorant of the workings of the Internet. Ping Plotter and ping use a special ping protocol/port. H2H use TCP/IP which is reliable. The HTC arenas use UDP which is not reliable. Hosts have no obligation to deliver UDP packets on time or at all. So ping and PingPlotter will give you a good indication of your avarage ping time and serious troubles on the route, but they should not tell you how reliably and/or consistently your actual UDP game packets arrive.
 One of my DSL connections (through Juno) is always less then 112ms according to the PingPlotter, no packet losses at all, but it is completely unplayable in the arena in the evenings because some host on the way is dropping UDP packets when the load is heavy. No problems playing H2H though.
 The fact that your ping plotter shows no problems does not mean that your UDP connects are good. The fact that you are the one seeing problems when others don't most likely indicates your connect is bad.

 I suggest that you ask someone you trust to fly with you in the arena (preferably while on the phone with that person), do abrupt maneuvers and listen to what they see. You may be surprised.

 To HTC.
 If I go to a nice restaurant and see a patron abusing other patrons and the management does not intervene, I would never go back there again.
 In some places you expect that kind of behavior and it is perfectly fine. In others it is not acceptable.
 It is HTC's choice what kind of place they run.
 Since the average age of the players is over 30 and the game/hardware/connection is not cheap, I assume that the level of the HTC current/prospective clientelle is pretty sophisticated.
 Many of them should be offended and put off by offensive remarks in the buffer, weather directed towards them or not.
 I was showing AH to many people in my office who may be interested in joining (quite a few have a privet pilot license and/or fly MS FS), but I felt embarrased by some things in the buffer and made sure they did not see it.

 I suspect that HTC may be losing more business not retaining people like that then keeping a very few loud-mouthed players who cause most of the problem.
 The policy should be made clear. Yes, AH is an adult game. But HTCs intent was to build a flight sim, not a sleasy chat-room.

miko

[This message has been edited by miko2d (edited 09-14-2000).]

[ygsmilo]

banana,

I saw that crap the other nite just as I was logging off.

There is no place for that kind of comment anywhere, let alone in a game.

I was going to say something about it but the mentality of people that say those kind of things does not allow much room for reason.

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JG 2's current cannon magnet

Milo

[JoeMud]

OH WILL YOU ALL JUST SHUT THE HELL UP!!!
THE HORSE IS DEAD DAMNIT!!

PLAY THE GAME AND SQUELCH THE OFFENSIVE ONES!

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"..he shoots fire out of his eyes and lightning bolts out of his arse..."

[Dago]

Good post Miko, very good.

JoeMud, should we spend all our times typing .squelch xxxxx?  I always squelch channel 1 now, but too often dweebs must swear and act like immature low class fools on country channel, and I would rather not have to squelch that too.  Why should a few obnoxious jerks be able to degrade the fun of this game for so many?  I really dont think it is out of line for us the players, or HTC the company to expect and even require a decent standard of behavior.  Because a few choose to display a lack of self respect and
questionable upbringing, I dont think we all should be required to put up with it.

The poor behaviour I am talking about is the use of vulgar language. It is limited to a very few, most players in this game are great guys. I do let my youngest son play often and I would prefer he not be exposed to this language in a game environment.

Dago

[maik]

banana: Sorry that your son was reading this  . Dunno why that guy said this to me, was just shooting him down. Never saw him before.

Renfield, RAM: Calm down plz  . Let's all be friends again. Well besides those %%&$§§& Bishes and Rooks, hehee.

Maik
<JG54 Gruenherz>

[Duckwing6]

Nath-BDP you beat RAM in a 4 vs 1 ?

now guys .. WHO THE HECK cloned RAM eh ? Admitt it guys ..

 

[SOB]

No, he beat RAM in a duel 4-1.  Don't put words in his mouth, ya big bully!  


SOB

BTW...banana, that sucks!  I'll be sure and remember to squelch channel 1 next time my nephew is over!

[Kieren]

Renfield-

I have to agree with your sentiment. Every single time I log on anymore I have someone smart off to me. As a result, I no longer log on. My life is too hectic and stress filled to have someone anger me within 5 minutes of logging on. Talking smack is fun for some people- for others it isn't. I fall into the latter category.

It wasn't always this way. It doesn't have to be this way. And for anyone thinking it is only the two-week trial guys behaving this way, think again.  

The community, for better or worse, is evolving. Each of us decides when and where it has reached the point of intolerability. I don't have the right to tell the rest of the AH community how to behave- I do have the right to decide whether I want to be part of it.

I am taking a break from the flying part for a good long time. I am reading the BBS and trying to contribute as I can to the CM events. (I hope this clarifies the situation as not being an "I quit" post) As for squelching all channels, even my country channel, in order to play in peace is not an option I want to entertain- I might as well play EAW.

For you guys that enjoy trash talk, or treating others like they belong in your squad and need lectures, well, that is your choice. I tend to agree with Renfield, you may just run some good people off...