Online Player Behavior (or lack thereof)

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New for 104.3, toggle for open channel.

[JoeMud]

I give up on all this crap come end of the month im gone again this game is making me go insane.

[CptTrips]

Renfield,

You appear to be suffering from R.O.F.

The real solution to this and related ailments is for HTC to provide us with a "squelch.cfg" file.  In it we will add the growing list of handles that will be completely and permently squelched from our text buffer without tediously having to retype them in every session.  I too would rather not have to squelch a whole channel when it is usually a vocal minority that make it unpleasent for everyone else.


If HTC wants to add one small feature that would have a dramatic and profound effect on the enjoyability of our online gaming this would be it.  At this point, I'd rather have this feature more than a new plane, tank, or even naval vessels.  IMHO, this is the single most powerful ROI of any possible feature for the amount of time it would take to implement.  A small effort for huge, far reaching returns.  

HTC:
You know how you have the "Tune to" button on the clip board roster for automatically setting you chan 1 to the selected player?  Please add a "Squelch" button as well that add the selected player to this permenant list.  Later if their behavior habbits improve you can select them again and "unsquelch".  Maybe a column added to the roster list showing whether that player is currently in the squelch list or not.  

You would not believe what a valuable feature this would be for your customers.
 

Regards,
Wab

[Fariz]

It seems that people here enjoy posting more, than finding the solution   Solution is here, it called squalch. What I do normally, I try to be reasonable and to discuss the situation with other person, who try to offend me. If he still stays on "child" level of comunication I say that I squelch him on channel 1, and do it. If I squelch same person 3 times within couple of months I put him in squelch list, which I enter every time I joined MA or TA. It does not take a long time, but still a squelch list will be better. I must say that the whole my time with AH it was only 3 people I put in that list, and from them only 1 still with AH.

Fariz.

[iculus]

I agree with Renfield and Kieren here...

I made a similar post a while back and got a similar slew of responses. The outside world is simply too stressful to get online and have to deal with some of what I've seen in the buffer.  The H2H option is simply a better alternative to the MA.  I was there this afternoon and had a blast.

IC

[hitech]

A post I made a few days back.


Thanks for the help gents.
1. I never fly under an alias.
Ive been HT online for over 10 years. My online persona is what it is, and not flying as HT just isn't the same for me.

2. When im not in blue, I wan't to be treated as just another player.
Basicly even things like 1.04 is cool tend to distract me because they take my focus away from how to kill the other guy and make me feel obligated to respond. I just want to think about flying , tactics and killing ,joking around,just like everyone else, and not think about my work.

3. If im not rapped up in a fight I try to answer help type questions.

I do realy apreciate it when other players help newer people understand when im open for questions and when im not.

Also latly there are 2 attitudes in the arena I would like help with.

1. I do not think it's acceptible to belittle other players, im not talking about jokeing between friends, but rather calling people dweebs for there flight style.

I.E. calling someone a spit dweeb just because he likes to fly a spit excetera. Or alt monkey. HO Dweeb,Cannon dweeb or what ever.

Everyone has the same options in the arena as to what to fly or how to fly the plane. Any choice someone makes as to what or how to fly might not be your choice but it is theres to make and have fun as they wish.

2. I real hate comments that distract from peoples enjoyment. Things like This flight model is porked, this plane sucks, this gameplay sucks ectera. Comments like this tend to come from people just being upset and wanting to vent, but it is not an exceptible way to behave in a community enviorment.

This is total opposed to wondering ,questioning or discusing a bug,problem or details of a flight model online. I find no problem with critising or discussing details online, Im just take exception to the the overall this is porked or this sucks beeing portrayed online.

I feel both of these realy ditract from the fun of everyone, and give new people coming into AH the wrong attitude. This is somthing the hole community can help us lessen the occurances of.

HiTech

[CptTrips]

Upping the ante. ;o)

 

Ordered today for purposes of bribery.

To be personally placed on desk of Dale Addink upon delivery of said or equivalent feature.

Regards,
Wab

[Wanker]

I'm glad you agree with us, HT.

Your post will be respected by those of us who can listen to reason. But what about all the kEwL dOOdZ out there that won't listen to reason, or who get off on causing animosity?

Currently, HTC is putting the honus on us to squelch the morons out there who can't learn how to behave.

How about HTC doing the right thing and banishing these morons from the arena permanently, before more people like Kieren leave? How about getting tough, biting the bullet, and become a leader in the online sim industry by enforcing a code of conduct?

Think about it. What has Kieren done to anyone else in this arena, other than be helpful, friendly and courteous. And this is the thanks he gets?

I've been a customer of yours for over four years, but I will leave and take my dollar elsewhere if Aces High is left to become a cesspool of adolescent behavior. It hurts me to say that, because I really respect you and your staff. But enough is enough!

   

[CptTrips]

>How about HTC doing the right thing and
>banishing these morons

I don't mind shooting at them, and them shooting at me.  I just don't want to read their crap.

One button.

One click.

Silenced forever.

Regards,
Wab

[This message has been edited by AKWabbit (edited 09-14-2000).]

[Apache]

Sysops anyone? Granted, it takes a little control from us as users to squelch whom ever we deem necessary, however, I too am getting tired of spending valueable <SP> time typing .squelch xxxx.
Kieren leaves and we have to live with xxxx. Ludicrous.

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[Mighty1]

I think we need a new Forum..maybe call it the "Ram Renfield squeak Forum"

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[Fury]

 

Originally posted by banana:
....How about HTC doing the right thing and banishing these morons from the arena permanently, before more people like Kieren leave? How about getting tough, biting the bullet, and become a leader in the online sim industry by enforcing a code of conduct?...

Currently, the MSN Gaming Zone does just that.  There is a specific "code of conduct" becomming of an RSACi level 2.  One of the jobs of volunteer sysops and chancellors is enforcement of the "code".  Included in their power is the ability to warn, boot (remove a customer from a game), and even ban a customer for up to 24 hours.  They can also escalate habitual problems to the "higher-ups" that can result in a longer or even permanent ban.

I don't want to debate if this is a good idea for HTC or not; just throwing out this fact, that other sites do police themselves.  In the vast majority of cases, the players are thankful that someone has been removed for behaviour; the ones that complain the loudest are the ones that get removed.<<edit: that sounds all wrong LOL.  It should read: The ones who complain the loudest are the ones who have been removed; i.e. the ones who love to use obscene language or verbally abuse other customers>>.  The sysops are not "morality police" or anything like that; they simply enforce a "code of conduct" (or "terms of service") that *every* customer of the Zone is required to agree to before even creating an i.d.

Fury



[This message has been edited by Fury (edited 09-14-2000).]

[RAM]

 

Originally posted by Mighty1:
I think we need a new Forum..maybe call it the "Ram Renfield squeak Forum"

Hehe, Mighty, where did you see me squeak in this thread?   it has been the best laugh in months, really.

To the rest of the people:
While I have gone ballistic A LOT of times and have sometiemes gone beyond the reasonable limits and over the reasonable words, lately I have gained a hole new view of this sim , and the way to see it, play it, and treat the persons in it.

Last Saturday? Sunday maybe? dunno, but one of those days I went in private with renfield for a moment, thinking in giving an apology and start from 0. I called him 2 times "ehmm...have you got a second?".

THere was no asnwer, so well, I didnt work harder to make him answer  . And now I find THIS from him  . Understand that I can break off laffin  .

and no, I wont try it again, as I have my own ideas about informers in real life. This guy wont never be worth 0.02$ for me  

Anyway, I have read Hitech's post, and while I have broken all and every one of his points in the past, I haven't since last week, and I dont plan to do it. And for sure yesterday "informing" thing from Renfield ( LOL) had no serious base, as to call someone "warper" and squelching him is something if not natural, at least normal.

I will try to keep it this way, the civil way. THat wont stop me from being pissed sometimes ,and so sometimes I know I may fail and go agains "where noone should go"  . We are all human. I am TOO Much human  . And I will fail, be sure. But, too , be sure that will be much less than before  .

Oh, well. And excuse me for laugh nonstop for a day. It was REALLY too much funny.

[MrLars]

Fury....
A ban from the Zone is a minor thing. I've seen a few lifetime bans there and the players always show up under a new Nic...all it takes is a reformat of their boot drive and a mail change and they are back...works with the ones that want to have their 3 day free trial last indefinatly also. The problems with Sysops is the fact that they are people and players...the abuse of their power is always an issue. I would hope that in AH we, the players, can police the behavior in the arena to make it a fun experience for all.
My neice <7 years old> likes to sit in my lap while I fly. Having to sheild the text buffer is more necessary these days and shouldn't have to be done.
I know of one way to thump the foul mouths in AH...a dweeb hunt with the help of the dweebs countrymen for vectoring the hunters to their prey...I know I would change my online attitude if it got me such attention.

Lars