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Offline X2Lee

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« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2003, 05:18:06 PM »
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Darryl Worley!!? did you hear "I miss my friend" with the fake crying ??

This guy is a joke, he's just jumping on the patriotic bandwagon to milk the cow!

Long live the Dixie Chicks ! "Travelling soldier" is ten times more patriotic and sincere !




Maybe yall can import some of thier CDs, they aint doing too well here anymore.

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« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2003, 06:16:50 PM »
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Habu re-read your history books (if you have any) :

USA did help, a little, in WWI. USA did help A LOT in WWII.

blaa blaaa blaaa...


Actually I do know quite a bit about history and France. Would you like to discuss another case of looting? How about the World War II occupied France's collaborationist Vichy regime? How they passed a series of laws ordering financial institutions to block Jewish accounts and sell off Jewish-owned stocks and bonds. How they stole an estimated $1.3 billion in assets this way?

Or how about the 65,000 dead Canadians buried in France and Belgium who died winning WW1 for you? Ever heard of Vimy Ridge?

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« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2003, 02:02:58 AM »
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But its ok for you to say half of america is too dumb to find Iraq on the map. I guess its ok because at least half of germans
cant wipe thier bellybutton right.  :D

Blitz is my prime example. With german spokesmen such as this whatya expect?


No its not but i am sick of all these arogant bull**** anti-france anti-germany threads.

Blitz has an opinion, is he allowed to have 1 ? Yes he is.
Are u guys allowed to make fun of him ? Yes u are, but its arrogant and stupid.
He never made personal fun about any1. He has a political point if view thats it.
If u guys have a problem with the people that are against war, tell them and shut up or bring arguments.
There is no problem with a good political discussion, but i hear to many offensive things from the US boys.
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« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2003, 02:24:27 AM »
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No its not but i am sick of all these arogant bull**** anti-france anti-germany threads.

Blitz has an opinion, is he allowed to have 1 ? Yes he is.
Are u guys allowed to make fun of him ? Yes u are, but its arrogant and stupid.
He never made personal fun about any1. He has a political point if view thats it.
If u guys have a problem with the people that are against war, tell them and shut up or bring arguments.
There is no problem with a good political discussion, but i hear to many offensive things from the US boys.


Perhaps the german girls should start bringing some real arguments to the table, then.

All Blitz has done is spew nonsense with the intent to insult.  It's rare that he posts any real facts.  He just flames and trolls.

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« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2003, 02:29:07 AM »
Of course blitz is allowed to have an opinion, this does not mean we cant jump all over the redikuloos and hateful things he says.


Plus frankly I think its beyond stupid to be lectured on free speech issues by a post ww2 German, so kindly please shut up and talk about things your country actually undrstands and has an experience with.

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« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2003, 02:32:38 AM »
Whatever.
Dont make fun about people or society from a country u never visited. Info's from news channel or Books can be very very wrong.
I am out of these stupid discussions. Makes me mad.
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« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2003, 02:38:31 AM »
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All Blitz really does was writing his opinion.
Then u guys came along and attacked him in a way thats not fair.

But i should know better. Discussin with americans about america is useless.
U guys have the best Society anyway. At least that is what u think.

At least he has an  OWN opinion Martlet.



Did you read what I wrote, or just start blathering on?

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« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2003, 02:50:44 AM »
Boohooo Freezeee....

So all these euro anti-usa guys visited america and know it intimately? I'm sure you have noticed in your visits how we are all cowboys and wear big hats and ride on horses and how we all work for oil companies... Right?

:rolleyes:

And dont firget I'm from Europe just like u, so this ignorant american sterotype crap youy are trying to push and hold so dear is just so much BS to me...

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« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2003, 03:57:46 AM »
Habu every country has known his dark age. USA has done some horrible things also : indian genocide, black segregation, atomic bomb on civilians...

No democratic country could be quote or prevail as the best, not France, not USA.

WWI : France and germany loose in 20days at Verdun 600000 men each. It's the worse butchery a war known to date.

To compare each over glory or failure isn't the point. Past can't be used as the justification of the present or we will never stop to argue.

To finish what France did wasn't an anti-US action, what french thinks about us isn't anti-us.

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« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2003, 04:01:42 AM »
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atomic bomb on civilians...


Would you haved preffered that twenty times as many were killed in far far slower ways during an invasion of  Japan?

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« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2003, 04:10:28 AM »
Grunherz :

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Would you haved preffered that twenty times as many were killed in far far slower ways during an invasion of Japan?


Since it didn't happen, you don't know. The fact is that 2 bombs have been droped on cities causing the death of hundred thousand civilians.

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« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2003, 04:31:26 AM »
And what of the bombing of Tokyo where thousands of bombs were dropped causing the death of hundreds of thoysands?

And yes we can speculate what would have happened in an invasion of Japan. The battles of Okinawa and Saipan, islands with large japanese civilan populations showd just how devestating it woyld be to those poluplations who were often forced to commit suicide en masse by the japanese army. There is no reason it would be different on the Japanese home islands - in fact it would have been worse...

And frankly it is f8unny for a Frenchman to ask for more americans and british to have died needlessly in WW2 in an inavasion of Japan. How many troops did the French authorities send to help invade Japan in late 1945?

The fact is that the nuclear attacks saved millions of lives both american and japanese and greatly shortened the war and suffering of a 100,000,000 japanese and set them rebulding for peace and  proseparity after decades agression and war.

This hatred of the use of nucler weapons in ww2 is a typical left wing self-centered argument. You oppose nukes, which is admirable and understandible for all, but then you selfishly suggest that countless more people should ahave died and suffered just as long as they dont die to the weapons you personally dislike.

In fact this attitide is identical to that of the pro-saddam anti-war crowd. You were all more than happy to let saddam stay in power and murder and let starve  to dwath over a million of his own people as he has done in the last ten years, but god forbid the USA comes in and removes saddam for they could kill a few civilians.  

Admit it you dont care about iraqi civilans at all or even japanese civilans, your real problem is with the USA, your real problem is resentment of american power - a sort of power france's ego wants but has not had in 200 years..

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« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2003, 04:51:54 AM »
Grunherz dp u think there are people who gives a **** about how powerfull their country is ?
I do. I give a ****ing **** about if the german goverment is pro or con war. I give a **** about if Germany has a strong millitary or not. I give a **** about what the hell they do in the world. All i care about is that my personal life is doing good.

In my opinion the reason why many americans speak like some people here in the board. I dont wanna call names.
Is that they getting pushed from the earliest days with patriostism. They getting told that they life in the best country in the world and that their society has no match around the world.

Thats a big problem in my opinion. I am not patriotic. I am pretty sure not many germans are patriotic. I dont care if Germany falls to dust tomorow. Then i would move to the next country i like.

But these overwhelming patriotism some US people show close their eyes for other point of views. And i am pretty sure it alos pushes the feeling that all the other people (outside) are worse anyway in their way of life.

Thats highly dangerous. Its a big problem because it creates a lot of hate and disliking that isnt necessary.

This is not meant personal. Its just a statement. So dont feel offended.
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« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2003, 05:28:14 AM »
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I give a ****ing **** about if the german goverment is pro or con war.

I give a **** about if Germany has a strong millitary or not.

I give a **** about what the hell they do in the world.



this means you give a ****

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All i care about is that my personal life is doing good.

This means you do not give a ****

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« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2003, 08:58:14 AM »
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Grunherz dp u think there are people who gives a **** about how powerfull their country is ?
I do. I give a ****ing **** about if the german goverment is pro or con war. I give a **** about if Germany has a strong millitary or not. I give a **** about what the hell they do in the world. All i care about is that my personal life is doing good.

In my opinion the reason why many americans speak like some people here in the board. I dont wanna call names.
Is that they getting pushed from the earliest days with patriostism. They getting told that they life in the best country in the world and that their society has no match around the world.

Thats a big problem in my opinion. I am not patriotic. I am pretty sure not many germans are patriotic. I dont care if Germany falls to dust tomorow. Then i would move to the next country i like.

But these overwhelming patriotism some US people show close their eyes for other point of views. And i am pretty sure it alos pushes the feeling that all the other people (outside) are worse anyway in their way of life.

Thats highly dangerous. Its a big problem because it creates a lot of hate and disliking that isnt necessary.

This is not meant personal. Its just a statement. So dont feel offended.


Have you ever lived in the US?

I mean, if I lived in an outhouse, I'd be kind of happy to see it fall apart, too.