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Offline bigsky

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« on: April 16, 2003, 01:19:50 AM »
whats the deal with perk planes? why do people see an enemy perk plane and lose all comon sense and situational awareness to try and kill them? many times ive seen guys just try and ram one to take the other guys perks. kinda just out of spite i think. now i doubt that i am the first to whine about this but i am this time. ive got the perks to loose a perk plane from time to time. i dont fly them alot anyway. but im thinking of the newer guys who worked hard in a game new to them to get what few perks they have only to ramed or ganged or even gangramed. that just sucks to me. if it was up to me i would i would drop the 14 on the spit id and just call them spits, like all the rest of models of spits. same with tempest call it typoon. f4u types all f4u. ta152 a 190. the only ones that wouldnt work with that plan is the jets and there kinda obvouis. just my humble opinion. let the slamming begin.
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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2003, 01:42:46 AM »
Someone call Swager!

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You can also use this to your advantage, knowing how the evil enemy will react when seeing your shiny Icon.

Take a Spit 14, make sure your squaddies follow in fast planes... Stay lower than them, show yer ar*e around... and while they come to pick on you, let your squaddies pick em off one by one, Voila...

Tip: find squaddies that shoot better than I do.
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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2003, 03:40:24 AM »
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Tip: find squaddies that shoot better than I do.


So true :p :p :p

btw I'm the second worst shooter of our squad ... Saw and I are the most deadly pair (not in the sense you can think of ;))
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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2003, 05:23:14 AM »
Bigsky, Thats a great idea, I was flying a P38 about 4k and heard a spit14, I looked to my right and seen a freindly in a spit14 and said so getting out the perk rides are ya. He said no im flying spit9, I looked at his icon and said spit14 and told him he was in a spit14 lol. He turned around to go land and there were alot of high HIGH cons about 10k above us.  There were 5 of them and all 5 came diveing down to kill him. I started laughing my bellybutton off, specially when a P38 augered trying to kill him. I helped him and killed 1 on his 6 then another one got me. Never did know if he made it home or not. When I died was him against a 109 and P51
I agree perk planes draw way too much atention
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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2003, 10:14:25 AM »
IMHO , don`t roll the dice if you can`t afford to lose.
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« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2003, 12:22:02 PM »
Keep the perk icons on the perk rides.  In fact, I'd like to see better icons for the normal rides, too.  Call a 109G2 a 109G2.  Call a 190A8 a 190A8.  Call a Spitfire V a Spitfire V.
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« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2003, 02:16:31 PM »
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IMHO , don`t roll the dice if you can`t afford to lose.

It has nothing to do with being able to afford to lose or not.  Most of us can lose perk planes up the wazoo.  It has to do with the fact that as a reward, they suck.

Where's the fun in being gangbanged in an aircraft that has a slight performance edge?  If you want to be gangbanged you can get it for free by flying where there are lots of enemies and few friendlies.


The Perk idea as I understood it:

Objective:

Be able to add "super" units without imbalancing the game and at the same time encourage people to use the less frequently used units.

Result as implimented:

"Super" units can be added without imbalancing the game because the "super" units are practically not used.  Because the "super" units are generally not fun to use there is no motivation to actually earn or spend perk points and thus there is no motivation to use the higher ENY units in preference to the more powerful low ENY units.

As implimented I think the Aces High perk system has been a 50% success.

My suggestion:

Icons should be as follows:

Ar234 = 234
F4U-1C = F4U
F4U-4 = F4U
Me163 = 163
Me262 = 262
Spitfire Mk XIV = SPIT
Ta152H-1 = 190
Tempest Mk V = TYPH
Tiger I = TANK (all tanks, Panzer IV H and Tiger I currently, should be labled TANK.  Identifiying tank types from the air was, I believe, quite difficult.)


I believe this would relieve the "gangbang the perk unit" mentality and make the perk units actually fun to use, and thus a viable and desired reward.  Be a desired reward would give perk points a purpose and make earning them worthwhile, thus encouraging the use of the rarer high ENY units.  The current perk prices would keep the perk units from flooding or imbalancing the MA, at least after people burned off their current stockpiles of perk points.  Actually, zeroing everybody's perk points at the same time as making this change might be a not half bad idea.
« Last Edit: April 16, 2003, 02:19:13 PM by Karnak »
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« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2003, 02:28:22 PM »
No.... that is a very bad idea.   HTC made the icons the way they are for a reason.

Anyone who flys a perk plane against lesser planes should be obvious... What's the matter?   flying a superior plane not enough advantage for ya?   Maybe you should be able to use more perks to make your plane invisible?  

heck... I grabbed a -4 to slaughter the cowardly pee51's that were milkrunning a base over and over.... I wanted em to see what was coming to run down their cowardly butts....  

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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2003, 02:34:00 PM »
I agree with the icon stuff. But the 262 is so much better than the other planes, you don't need any sort of protection. Unless you're an idiot, you can't be gangbanged, and you can't be HO'd / rammed. The others are a different story... they're all the LA-7's sweety.
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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2003, 11:38:09 AM »
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I agree with the icon stuff. But the 262 is so much better than the other planes, you don't need any sort of protection. Unless you're an idiot, you can't be gangbanged, and you can't be HO'd / rammed.


You can still piss away a 262 being stupid, like the two rooks who couldn't think of anything better to do than make runs on my B-26 from my 6 o'clock... I got both of them with my tail gun. Next time make it a challenge -- get some alt and make a high-speed attack from some wierd angle that doesn't give me a minute and a half to line up a shot.
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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2003, 12:14:08 PM »
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Keep the perk icons on the perk rides.  In fact, I'd like to see better icons for the normal rides, too.  Call a 109G2 a 109G2.  Call a 190A8 a 190A8.  Call a Spitfire V a Spitfire V.


ewwww...no, please don't do this.

It will take away all the suprise factor when a person in a spit tries to out-turn at high speed a 190A5 thinking it is a D9.;)
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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2003, 12:32:54 PM »
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IMHO , don`t roll the dice if you can`t afford to lose.


Agreed,if you have earned the plane you have earned the attention

I have lost hundreds of perks in one night of flying but I can afford it ;)
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« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2003, 04:52:16 AM »
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So true :p :p :p

btw I'm the second worst shooter of our squad ... Saw and I are the most deadly pair (not in the sense you can think of ;))


hmm... and where in this list is Messy? :D
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« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2003, 04:26:31 PM »
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hmm... and where in this list is Messy? :D


he cannot be in the list ... I've never seen a Panzer flying  :p
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