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Offline Wardog

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« on: October 22, 2000, 02:55:00 PM »
Heres your chance to pick the ride of your choice. Pyro has asked for imput in the Aircraft & Vehicles section.Your choices are..

P-47M
P-47N
P-51H
Fw 190D-9
Fw 190F-8
Ta 152H-1
Tempest V
Spitfire XIV
F4U-4
La-7
Yak-9UT


 http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum9/HTML/000930.html

Dog out......

Offline RAM

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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2000, 03:05:00 PM »
I'd like to see a Ta152C there instead of the H-1. A 152C should be way more playable in MA than a 152H.  .

BTW please notice that you must put your choices IN ORDER of preference. So please BE SURE that you put the 190D9 the first  

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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2000, 04:00:00 PM »
Doesn't this belong in the planes and vehicles forum??  
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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2000, 04:18:00 PM »
Foul!!!

Vote padding!!!

A thread with this title linking to a thread that should be neutral is not right.  I was wondering why the voting was so Luftwaffe centric.

Pyro, please delete this thread.

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funked

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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2000, 06:08:00 PM »
RAM Maybe because Ta 152H was put into production and was issued to a combat unit while Ta 152C was a prototype?

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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2000, 08:26:00 PM »
H1 will be perk plane. C will be perk plane.

Given the perking for both as guaranteed, I'll vote for C anytime  

And remember that Ta152C wasnt flying from mid-1944 because RLM was a niche of stupids that denied Tank the engines to build prototypes...so well, was a prototype but could've been much more  

plus, is better plane for MA  

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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2000, 08:57:00 PM »
Only 2 Ta152Cs were completed. 150+ of the H series completed and saw action. If we're gonna start modelling prototypes, lets stick some P51Hs in here. 487MPH at 25,000ft.

That's what I thought.
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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2000, 09:11:00 PM »
P51H is in wish list, SW  

 

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« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2000, 09:37:00 PM »
Actually, wasn't it about 45 H-0 that were produced, let alone saw action?

Ooh aah, 332mph at sea level. I'm in awe of it's supreme performance, LOL! Oh well, at least it can out-turn the Tempest...

You want a prototype, here's a prototype...

 
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« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2000, 09:48:00 PM »
 
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Actually, wasn't it about 45 H-0 that were produced, let alone saw action?

Ooh aah, 332mph at sea level. I'm in awe of it's supreme performance, LOL! Oh well, at least it can out-turn the Tempest...

Sorry but there were around 150 produced however only 55-65 (depends on the source) saw action.  Many were destroyed at airfields waiting on the pilots to take them to the operational units.  As for it not out turning the Tempest.....wrong again.  Go out on the web and look up Willi Reschke.  You will find a PERSONAL account of his fight and subsequent kill of a Tempest at TREE TOP LEVEL.  I think it is a very even account and you will find that he was a Ta-152H-1 driver in the Stabschwarm of JG 301.  These were the best of JG 301 and JG 300 who were put into the Ta-152H-1 because they were the best.  He described his fight against it as very even but found himself making ground on the Tempest he was flying against without pushing his plane to its limit or so he says.  I don't have the link right now but you can find it with a minimum of searching.


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« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2000, 11:56:00 PM »
Reschke, SW, we've been through this before on the board, maybe before you guys were here.  Vermillion has some pretty authoritative documentation on this.  The lower figure is correct.


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« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2000, 12:19:00 AM »
Been through what? I only stated the C had 2 versions built. Neither armed, neither flew in combat. There were over 150 H models built.
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« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2000, 12:26:00 AM »
What I meant is that the factory records show that 45 H models built is a more accurate figure.

Here's the thread:  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum1/HTML/003476.html

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« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2000, 01:19:00 AM »
Btw: P-51H was far from a prototype, 555 were produced before the war ended.

LJK_Reschke; why don't you go and read what I said about Ta 152H vs Tempest again...

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« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2000, 09:18:00 AM »
 
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Btw: P-51H was far from a prototype, 555 were produced before the war ended.

LJK_Reschke; why don't you go and read what I said about Ta 152H vs Tempest again...

Juzz;
Sorry I thought you wrote can out turn.  I was on my way to bed and had my eyes playing tricks on me.  Things like that can happen when you have had 3 hours of sleep in the last 36.  I apologize m8.

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