Author Topic: Russia says NO to end UN sanctions on Iraq (Read 862 times)

OIO · « **on:** April 17, 2003, 10:15:38 AM »

Thats messed up.

Maybe they pulling a Chirac in hopes of getting a bigger piece of the reconstruction pie.

Martlet · « **Reply #1 on:** April 17, 2003, 10:18:57 AM »

If they end sanctions on Iraq, no more cheap oil for them.

Fishu · « **Reply #2 on:** April 17, 2003, 10:22:33 AM »

Umm.. but russia has it's own oil, alot of it

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #3 on:** April 17, 2003, 10:24:01 AM »

Aye, but they cant afford to get at it.

BUG_EAF322 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 17, 2003, 10:24:28 AM »

That oil goes straight into the rivers and back into the enviroment.

Says al lot about russia too.

AKIron · « **Reply #5 on:** April 17, 2003, 10:26:44 AM »

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Originally posted by Fishu
Umm.. but russia has it's own oil, alot of it

And yet Russia was Iraqs biggest oil customer. Perhaps you'd care to explain wht Russia rejects the lifting of sanctions?

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/sanction/iraq1/council/2002/0116russia.htm

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #6 on:** April 17, 2003, 10:27:48 AM »

Russia has lots of oil and they sell a lot of it. If oil prices drop they will be screwed. When iraq enters the market again oil prices will drop a bit.

Russian middlemen run the UN oil for food program, this will stop soon after sanctions are dropped and these guys will loose income.

Those are some of the resons russia was against the war and thats why they might be against lifting sanctions.

miko2d · « **Reply #7 on:** April 17, 2003, 10:30:57 AM »

What idiot ever suggested that Russia is afraid of losing cheap oil from Iraq? Russia does not import any oil from Iraq. They were in oil-exploration business with iraqi, not import.

Russia sells oil and it is afraid that cheap oil from iraq on the world market would drive the prices and their revenues down.

miko

Toad · « **Reply #8 on:** April 17, 2003, 10:32:48 AM »

The sanctions were supposed to influence the government of Iraq to comply right?

Where IS that government that they're supposed to be influencing now?

Clearly, the sanctions are pointless now. The government that they applied to no longer exists.

How ironic that the very governments that ignored them when Saddam held power now want to keep sanctions in effect with Saddam out of power.

Or maybe it's not irony.

ra · « **Reply #9 on:** April 17, 2003, 10:37:09 AM »

The UN sucks. You heard it here first.

AKIron · « **Reply #10 on:** April 17, 2003, 10:38:42 AM »

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Originally posted by miko2d
What idiot ever suggested that Russia is afraid of losing cheap oil from Iraq? Russia does not import any oil from Iraq.

From the article I posted before your post. Of course I don't know if it's accurate.

"Six months after Russia blocked a U.S. effort to overhaul U.N. sanctions against Iraq, Moscow has emerged as Baghdad's largest export customer, according to U.N. diplomats."

What is Russia importing from Iraq exactly if not oil? Fine wine maybe?

miko2d · « **Reply #11 on:** April 17, 2003, 10:38:45 AM »

Toad: The government that they applied to no longer exists.

Does that mean our troops will be out of there by weekend?

Anyway:

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RUSSIA will not support a US proposal to lift UN sanctions on Iraq if UN inspectors do not confirm the country has no weapons of mass destruction, a Russian foreign ministry official said.

"Regime change in Baghdad is not a condition for lifting economic sanctions on Iraq," the official told the Interfax news agency on condition of anonymity.

"There is a UN Security Council resolution for this, which clearly stipulates the disarmament of Iraq - something international inspectors must decide," he said, adding that Russia supported the return of UN inspectors.

We need a new UN resolution or just wait for the whole subject to become moot once iraq is officially a US-administered territory and all trade becomes US trade. Falling that, we can always rename the damn country or split it into several onces or join it with Syria which is not embargoed, etc. Once you have power, it's easier to redraw the borders that international laws.

miko

Mini D · « **Reply #12 on:** April 17, 2003, 10:41:07 AM »

Those sanctions are the only means that the UN has for making money off of Iraqi oil. I'm sure this was a recent topic of conversation at the last F/G/R meeting.

Its not a suprise to anyone.

MiniD

muckmaw · « **Reply #13 on:** April 17, 2003, 10:43:55 AM »

Now who's shedding blood for oil?

miko2d · « **Reply #14 on:** April 17, 2003, 10:45:56 AM »

AKIron: From the article I posted before your post. Of course I don't know if it's accurate.

If Russia did act as an intermediary for reselling iraqi oil, or bought some of it for themselves because iraq is close to the south and transporting oil from Iraq may be cheaper than from the north, they will not be able to to maintain those actions, embargoe or not - not with US in control of the oil production.

What is large for iraq is not necessarily large for Russia. If they engaged into any small import dealings with Iraq, it's mostly to facilitate huge development and exploration contracts - which are exports.

It's major oil price drop that Russia fears, not some measly commissions on some iraqi resale. The cost of producing oil in russia is about $18/barrel. If it drops to that level, they are screwed in a major way.

miko