Author Topic: MA Strat. Why Always? (Read 1549 times)

lazs2 · « **Reply #45 on:** April 21, 2003, 09:05:23 AM »

so... I guess we can agree then that your opinion about the fighter part of the game is worthless then laughing boy? If I even need an opinion on the ultra realistic GV or bombing part of the game I will pull your string.
lazs

Jackal1 · « **Reply #46 on:** April 21, 2003, 09:19:14 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
so... I guess we can agree then that your opinion about the fighter part of the game is worthless then laughing boy? If I even need an opinion on the ultra realistic GV or bombing part of the game I will pull your string.
lazs

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Naw, were not agreeing on anything so far. Were still working on your comprehension problem. Here ya go, try this http://www.rhlschool.com/reading.htm . I know it has helped many at your level. We`ll get there, hang in there.

The fighter part is a just a small part of the game, a very small part, and if your not flying a "point and shoot" plane you got to invest a little time. Uh Oh, sorry I forgot your unwillingness to put out any effort. Try the rest of the game while your working on your little prob, then maybe you can comment on it. As it is now youre not even participating in the game as it is played in the MA. Your point and shoot, arcade type, I want it right now and I want it my way, play would be better suited to the DA. The MA is setup for complete gameplay. Unless you want to up some more names your playing under then youre not experienceing the gameplay in the MA. Of course that would open another whole area of lameness if you copped to that.

meddog · « **Reply #47 on:** April 21, 2003, 09:39:52 AM »

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jakal... I don't believe that "missuns" are conducive to good fights... gangbangs are not "good fights" steamrolling fields because you have the numbers are not good fights... success is measured differently by different players..

If the fields were closer together and the combatants met somewhjere in the middle it would open up the game for more than just the "missun dudz"...

once the field is porked by the suicide missun types or once the horde arrives... there is no point in sticking around... I look for something a little less lopsided.
lazs

Your right. Gangbanging or steam rollling or being steamed rolled or gangbanged isn't very fun. Neither is vulching because there is no real skill in those tactics, other than trying not to auger while salivating over the easy kill your rolling in on, it's all numbers. But then again, that's what real war is about. Over whelm the enemy with numbers to ensure your success and minimze your losses. After all, real life is a 1 time event. You cant just say "oh well, I'll just reup." It's easy to get kills when its 3:1 odds. just watch when you have 5 guys chasing 1 plane. its so laughable. I mean I catch my self doing it too some times. I think to myself does it really take 5 or 10 guys to kill 1 plane? I tell my self no and brake off and wait for the next guy. If you don't want to be apart of the "mega missions" that's fine there is nothing wrong with that. But I'm sure there is something you could do to help your counrty's objective(win the reset) and stay in the narrow confinds of what you call fun. But in your last paragraph, it sounds like anytime the battle gets a liitle lopsided you run away instead of finding a solution to beat the lopsidedness. But that would take strategy and by your thread, I don't think you like stragey games much. So I guess a friendly game of chess would be out of the question huh? But what I normally complain about is the lack of cooperation when we are severely out numbered.

meddog · « **Reply #48 on:** April 21, 2003, 09:42:31 AM »

PS nothing personal bro. just an observation. but on a side no tho I reallhy like your avatat

Rude · « **Reply #49 on:** April 21, 2003, 11:52:23 AM »

To have 30 guys fightin over 5 enemy planes kinda sucks. It's much more fun buttin heads with more comparable numbers, be it 5v5 or 30v30....the point being, it's nice to have a choice.

I see more and more of the huge lopsided encounters...the big maps add even more watering down of good head to head encounters due to the number of fields and the choice that gives many players.

I'm not sure what single change would improve the dynamics of the game myself...I'm too busy with RL to give it much thought....however, I'm willing to lean towards Lazs's suggestion as it would penalize no one and at the same time would offer an enviroment where some of us with less patience, could find, get to and engage in a fight without uppin from a capped field or flyin for a sector and a half first.

There are some close fields....if you pay attention, you'll notice that they spawn the best fights and are always the first to go in each of the big maps....once their gone, it's the long flight thingie again.

I'm happy, as it doesn't take much to please me....still, I'm all for intensity, not fallin asleep tryin to find and sustain good engagements.

lazs2 · « **Reply #50 on:** April 22, 2003, 08:33:06 AM »

med... u didn't read what i wrote... if 'leaving a porked field when the horde arrives" is the same as.... "anytime the battle gets a liitle lopsided you run away instead of finding a solution to beat the lopsidedness. " then yeah... that is what I do... I leave whenever the field is porked and capped with 10 to 1 odds or better. Sorry... but it isn't much fun...

It isn't much fun to be one of the 10 or twnety circling around the field hoping someone is dumb enough to up. well for me it isn't.... I can see by your stats that circling around for 20 or 30 minutes to get one kill is the norm for you.

It is your idea of strat that causes these things not the furballers. you are the one begging for people to steamroller undefended fields. by doing so.... you allow the enemy to steamroller your (now) undefended fields.... whoever steamrollers the fastest or, more accurately.... whichever team has the most players.....

"wins" yeah... lotta "strat" there... it's all so complex and difficult.... much too much for my simple furballer mind to grasp.
lazs

meddog · « **Reply #51 on:** April 22, 2003, 09:33:44 AM »

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med... u didn't read what i wrote... if 'leaving a porked field when the horde arrives" is the same as.... "anytime the battle gets a liitle lopsided you run away instead of finding a solution to beat the lopsidedness. " then yeah... that is what I do... I leave whenever the field is porked and capped with 10 to 1 odds or better. Sorry... but it isn't much fun...

It isn't much fun to be one of the 10 or twnety circling around the field hoping someone is dumb enough to up. well for me it isn't.... I can see by your stats that circling around for 20 or 30 minutes to get one kill is the norm for you.

It is your idea of strat that causes these things not the furballers. you are the one begging for people to steamroller undefended fields. by doing so.... you allow the enemy to steamroller your (now) undefended fields.... whoever steamrollers the fastest or, more accurately.... whichever team has the most players.....

"wins" yeah... lotta "strat" there... it's all so complex and difficult.... much too much for my simple furballer mind to grasp.
lazs

Let me be the first to appologize. It's becomming abundently clear that you and I have no clue as to what the other person is trying to say, or is being blown out of porportion I have to admit parts of your thread were unclear as to who or what you were refering to, so I assumed you were refering to the enemy and not the friendlies. I know that you misunderstand what my idea of strategy is. But I will agree with you on some of your points. 1. it is boring to fly around for 20 minutes capping a base (porked or not) waiting for the goon to arrive and ther are alot of times I feel like leaving, but in the 10 or so minutes it take for the goon to get there, alot can happen. I have seen many times when a base seems all but sure of capture only to blow it and loose the base inwhich we upped from in the first place t boot. 2. And yes generally the team that has the most players win, but not always, and i'm not talking about steamrolling or gangbanging either. Although I guess that depends on what your definition of steamrolling is. 3. 20-50 man missions ie mega missions, your right no real complex strategy there and as i'm writing this reply I can't remeber if this is the thread I started or someone else. I have nothing against furballing , I do it too some times.

I don't want to get into a pissing contest with you or anyone else, especially when there seems to be so much misunderstanding from both sides of the fence.
I can either E-mail ya or write a thread out lineing how this came about.

guttboy · « **Reply #52 on:** April 23, 2003, 02:07:05 AM »

I love the game the way it is. It has its ups and downs but I love it. Much better than warbirds or air warrior. I for one am not keen on going to the new AH2 format.

By the way....can we mine for crystals here?