Author Topic: SirLoin says we are war mongers (Read 2083 times)

Drunky · « **Reply #30 on:** April 21, 2003, 07:49:15 PM »

I don't think that they are saying the squad has politcal affiliation.

I think it was pointed out that the the pilots are politcally affiliated and that does reflect upon the squad as does the pilot's personalities.

Personally I wouldn't feel comfortable flying with person's who share a diameterically opposed political affiliation.

Steve · « **Reply #31 on:** April 21, 2003, 07:53:35 PM »

Furball nooo! I don't dislike any of your gang. In fact, I know/like many of them. Look, blame my shortcomings. I'm not faulting you guys at all, I've made that clear. I just have very different political views than some of your more outspoken squad mates. In fact, the only name calling/dislike that has gone on is when replicant called me "rediculous".

Furball · « **Reply #32 on:** April 21, 2003, 08:07:38 PM »

well, i have yet to find a person in hornets that i dislike. im sure you are missing out by not joining us.

Just a shame you have to hold a petty thing like politics against people and make your gameplay reflect your political beliefs as im sure we would have enjoyed flying with one another.

NUKE · « **Reply #33 on:** April 21, 2003, 09:14:45 PM »

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Originally posted by blitz
Bush & Co are a bunch of warmongers, no doubt .

And they are betrayed all of us with their bag of lies

Regards Blitz

America was threatened by Iraq in no way, it was just plain ridiculous

Yeah, The US and Bush are war mongers because Iraq decided to invade Kuwait , failed to live up to it's cease-fire agreements and defied the world for 12 years. I guess 12 years is considered a mad rush to war.

I find it laughable that someone could call the USA war mongers, especially given the fact that we have been quite restrained in our actions following 911. After all, there are groups funded and supported by nations that have stated there INTENT TO DESTROY US. Wouldnt you call THEM the war mongers? No, not in your twisted world I guess.

If we are war mongers, what does that make terrorists and terrorist states that attacked us and cry "Death to America" Are they the good guys?

And when you say the US went against the will of the world community, you fail to see that 1441 was unanimously passed and it offered Iraq one last chance to disarm. That was the will of the community.

And by the way, It was France and Germany that deceived the world with their lies. They voted for 1441, then back-peddled when it appeared that the US was actually going to do something to enforce it.

The "world community" that the US went against was Russia, France and Germany. Big deal....... 3 loser countries more interested in their political clout than the saftey of the world.

The world community behind us and our actions is more extensive than the few hand-wringers playing it safe on the sidelines .

France and Germany both lost big by taking the stance they did. They would rather have let Iraq indefinetey defy the world. America finnally solved the problem and we did so in a descisive, brilliant fashion...... much to the horror of people like you.

What I really would like to know is this:
1. Do you think Iraq has finally been disarmed like the UN has demanded for more than 12 years? I think thats a yes. Problem SOLVED.

2. Is the side benifit of Iraqis being liberated a good thing? I'd say that's a yes.

Now tell me why either of those events are bad?

1. Iraq is finally disarmed
2. Iraqis liberated in the process.

Tell me that's bad!

SirLoin · « **Reply #34 on:** April 21, 2003, 09:32:58 PM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
I find it laughable that someone could call the USA war mongers

No one said that...Nice try..

In fact you and Steve think alike...Someone says somthing you don't like...you morph it into an attack on a country...(or a squad in Steve's case)

Lame thread.

Even lamer flame attempt.

NUKE · « **Reply #35 on:** April 21, 2003, 09:47:15 PM »

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Originally posted by SirLoin
No one said that...Nice try..

In fact you and Steve think alike...Someone says somthing you don't like...you morph it into an attack on a country...(or a squad in Steve's case)

Lame thread.

Even lamer flame attempt.

I missunderstood your reply to my thread about biased media when you stated "

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the only things that are biased are the vacume tubes you war-mongers live in.

Who were you refering to?

If it's such a lame thread, why bother to post? Just move along.

Plus, I have not attacked anyone or any country. You on the other hand responded to one of my threads by calling me a name,( which I don't mind because I'm a big boy) but is nevertheless childish and regarded as a personal attack.

NUKE · « **Reply #36 on:** April 21, 2003, 09:59:39 PM »

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Originally posted by SirLoin
No one said that...Nice try..

In fact you and Steve think alike...Someone says somthing you don't like...you morph it into an attack on a country...(or a squad in Steve's case)

Lame thread.

Even lamer flame attempt.

By the way you never answered my first post. Who were you refering to when you said

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the only thing that is biased is the vacume tubes you war-mongers live in.

I'd love to hear your answer.

Busher · « **Reply #37 on:** April 21, 2003, 10:00:43 PM »

Guys, as the Hornets CO I want to re-iterate that this Squadron does not have a political point of view with the exception that we are all free individuals in a free society. We have members from 3 different continents. I have lost count of the countries.

We do not discuss politics on line. We were formed to have fun. We fly as a team and we have great respect for one another.

I personally enjoyed winging with Davidd and I am sorry that Steve's invitation was messed up. It was no doubt an oversight on my part.

I would ask that we all try to respect that free thinking gives rise to different opinions. It would be a damn dull horse race if we all agreed.

Steve · « **Reply #38 on:** April 21, 2003, 10:10:41 PM »

I attacked your squad?
Hmmm let's see what I said about your squad hmmm

"They are a great squad"
"Like I said, it's a grand squad."
"I don't dislike any of your gang. In fact, I know/like many of them."

Yup, you are right sirloin, definitely an attack on your squad. You should complain to HTC.

Replicant · « **Reply #39 on:** April 22, 2003, 04:42:15 AM »

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Originally posted by Steve
Nuke, think about this, ,we came very close to joining the 418th hornets. in fact Davidd did join them for a time. They are a great squad, but there is no way I could stomach their politics. Davidd quickly jumped when he learned of their politics as well. Slowhand, Sir Loin, Thrawn are all in this squad. Can you imagine?

Fair comments Steve, but I think it was the quote above that ridiculed 418 Sqn. As mentioned before, we fly for fun and don't discuss politics as a squadron. 'Their' politics is actually 3 or 4 players, not the squad!

Furball · « **Reply #40 on:** April 22, 2003, 07:29:27 AM »

i neither understand, or care about politics.

CyranoAH · « **Reply #41 on:** April 22, 2003, 08:17:39 AM »

Man these threads are so amusing to read from the distance...

Daniel

SLO · « **Reply #42 on:** April 22, 2003, 08:38:31 AM »

hey hey back to the point you free thinking left or right political junkies.....

we suppose to be bashing the good ol' US of A.....oh wait....no we NOT suppose to be:D

I'm so confused.....

Steve I love ya too bro....

but If as you say 'can't stomach there politics'....too bad chump.....not your fault your.....huuuuh...weak:p

Wlfgng...your mean...mickey mouse is a symbol.....the greatest symbol of the USA....Donald duck can kiss mickeys arse bud.....btw mickeys richer

Puke....go teach your english to some1 interested....this is a bash usa thread....nononono...its a 'I love the usa thread'

I 'puke' all over your pet peeves....

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #43 on:** April 22, 2003, 08:51:09 AM »

Read Steves posts - and then the 418th posts - and behold - the problem with Liberalism.

1: "I think we should do something about welfare."

2: "The issue with thermodynamics is that Bugs Bunny does not understand than oil drives household products."

1: "...Huh?"

2: "You just dont understand."

Steve never said you were overly political in the game. Steve never said he didnt like any of you. Steve never said he was going to firebomb your house. Steve never attacked any member of, or the squad as a whole.

Steve simply stated that he could not imagine associating (ie - flying, talking, typing) with individuals whose political mindset was so different from his own - regardless of whether they voiced those opinions in the game or on the BBS. I dont blame him, because quite frankly, I dont see what difference it makes where you makes your views known - they are known.

Would you anti-W nuts have dinner with Bush and be able to associate kindly with him if the only subject was how good the food was? Based on your logic, since he isnt voicing his opinions in the war during dinner, you must look past them.

Thats... dumb.

SLO · « **Reply #44 on:** April 22, 2003, 09:16:55 AM »

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Originally posted by Steve
Some of your guys, yourself included, are so left as to seem alien to me. Now, I respect your right to have an opinion other than mine, even if it seems ludicrous to me but I simply cannot imagine socializing w/ a group who's views are so radically different, even dangerous imho, to mine.

hmm my views are dangerous.......

1- I don't like wars....

2- I don't like OIL tycoons running a big country making war with a small country....I prefer OTHER forms of action in resolving issues.

3- I don't like OIL tycoons running a big country making things BLACK or WHITE....with us or against us....small minded IMHO

4- I don't like OIL tycoons running a big country with 0% exp. in Foreign Affairs DECIDING the UN is irrelevent.

5- I don't like OIL tycoons running a big country using the pre-emptive strike Doctrine

6- I believe in free speech....

7- I believe in the liberty of man....

8- I believe in LISTENING to BOTH sides of the ISSUES.

9- I try very hard NOT to bash people with very very different opinions then mine....unless there views are radical....I will not hold it against them....still can be friends.

10- I believe in SKUZZY....as long as he keeps my connection working fine....I believe:eek:

11- I believe Pam Anderson got a boob job.....do you?

Steve....are those views SOOOO radically dangerous and alien too you as you so humble said.....come now my friend...think again.