Author Topic: Keep Meigs Open (Read 1946 times)

Dingbat · « **on:** April 21, 2003, 07:53:58 AM »

Here's a petition online, please if you will sign the petition.

Keep Meigs open

Tarmac · « **Reply #1 on:** April 21, 2003, 11:46:28 AM »

signed

Mini D · « **Reply #2 on:** April 21, 2003, 11:49:05 AM »

Didn't they already dig up the runway?

Dingbat · « **Reply #3 on:** April 21, 2003, 11:50:03 AM »

Mini-D click and read, bro.

Mini D · « **Reply #4 on:** April 21, 2003, 11:56:06 AM »

I did read the article... it made no mention of the runway being buldozed even as planes sat on the flight line.

It just seems the field has already been effectively closed.

BTW... I do think it was a particularly ****ty thing to do for reasons that involve little to no in-depth thought. But... now its not a matter of keeping it open, but instead building a whole new runway.

MiniD

Dingbat · « **Reply #5 on:** April 21, 2003, 12:12:40 PM »

Mini:
"There are hundreds of thousands of pilots within the USA whose very heart and soul was attacked with the closing of Meigs Field in Chicago. The shutting of Meigs Field in this fashion sets a dangerous precedent that will allow local governments to shut down small heartland airports without any warning to the FAA, the ruling aviation authority. "

Since the person who this letter is going to knows what he did, there really wasn't a need to outline the entire storyline. "The shutting of Meigs..." Perhaps the letter could be revised a little better. However, linkage provided at the bottom also refers to the incident.

Mini D · « **Reply #6 on:** April 21, 2003, 12:49:30 PM »

Sigh.. whatever dingbat.

It said it was shut down, not demolished. The petition would have been great about a year ago. Basically, its worthless now. The field being demolished in this way merits litigation, not petitions.

MiniD

Dingbat · « **Reply #7 on:** April 21, 2003, 01:19:19 PM »

It is a way to be heard, I suspect you don't fly by your reactions. To each their own. Not to mention they still can close the airport for good and not rebuild it.

Mini D · « **Reply #8 on:** April 21, 2003, 01:56:14 PM »

Ummm... suspect I don't fly by my reaction?

No. I don't fly. I would if I could afford it. But I don't.

I've fought locally against noise abaitment issues and privatised airstrips being beseiged by housing developments and being forced to close their doors. I spent 4 years with a mobile control tower where we only deployed to small private fields to support large events.

I'm pretty sure I'm in tune with the issues involved.

So... I'll say this again because you seem to be more in tune with sentiments than reality:

If there was a decision to close a functioning field, you issue a petition. Its going to be a long hard battle and hopefully you can keep it open. If they've rendered the field non-functional... kiss it goodbye. The only hope is that you can show the mayor's actions were illegal and get him to backtrack through the courts. That would virtually guarantee the survival of the field for x amount of years.

Sentiment has nothing to do with it. What was done was an atrocity. Petitions are not the answer.

MiniD

Dingbat · « **Reply #9 on:** April 21, 2003, 02:11:54 PM »

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Originally posted by Mini D
If they've rendered the field non-functional... kiss it goodbye. The only hope is that you can show the mayor's actions were illegal and get him to backtrack through the courts. That would virtually guarantee the survival of the field for x amount of years.

Sentiment has nothing to do with it. What was done was an atrocity. Petitions are not the answer.

MiniD

I'm not willing to give up that easily, perhaps through litigation they can force him to re-build. One can remain hopeful, rather than the pessimistic attitude that you've taken up.

Your post seems to be a double negative, First you say kiss it good bye, then you say prove he was wrong and protect the field for X number of years. this last statement implies that he'll have to rebuild Meigs...

And it's not a really a petition per say, but again, a way to be heard and express an opinion on how one person has wrongly impacted hundreds if not thousands of pilots world wide.

Mini D · « **Reply #10 on:** April 21, 2003, 02:16:13 PM »

Its not a double negative. It is saying that a petition right now is worthless. Pure and simple.

Your only hope is to show that the mayor commited a crime by destroying the field. Your absolute only hope. Cause then, to reconcile, you may get funding to rebuild the strip and guarantee the field's survival for a little while longer.

Basically, if the action was legal, you are not deciding on closing a functional strip, you're deciding on what to do with a nonfunctioning one.

MiniD

LePaul · « **Reply #11 on:** April 21, 2003, 02:19:04 PM »

What a putz

And yes, I am a licensed pilot and fly. MiniD just asked for details about what happened. Your holier-than-thou attitude isn't what he, or anyone else, was looking for.

Noble cause, don't get lost in the part...

Dingbat · « **Reply #12 on:** April 21, 2003, 03:29:55 PM »

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Originally posted by LePaul
What a putz

And yes, I am a licensed pilot and fly. MiniD just asked for details about what happened. Your holier-than-thou attitude isn't what he, or anyone else, was looking for.

Noble cause, don't get lost in the part...

Lapaul, Love to figure out where you get off calling me a putz. I haven't attacked you or Mini-D in any disrespectful tone. Holier than thou? How do you figure? Try to keep it Civil.

LePaul · « **Reply #13 on:** April 21, 2003, 05:43:27 PM »

midnight Target · « **Reply #14 on:** April 21, 2003, 05:51:20 PM »

Was your heart wrenched because Meigs was THE field on the oldest MS Flight simulator?

I'm gonna start a "Save Pong" websight.