Author Topic: Finns........ History Question (Read 2691 times)

Boroda · « **Reply #45 on:** April 24, 2003, 02:00:13 PM »

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Oh, and that long post was merely a review of things YOU said indicating that the Holy Soviet Union under Saint Joseph never waged "aggressive war".

Well, except Finland, now, apparently.

Again, where did you see me posting that USSR never waged agressive wars?

Oh, sorry folks, I am getting drunk enough to ask radio to sing me a love song

Toad · « **Reply #46 on:** April 24, 2003, 02:02:15 PM »

Tell me about the Soviet verison of the Katyn Forest massacre again Boroda... I love that fairy tale.

Hey, in you open society, why did the jam Radio Free Europe?

Fishu · « **Reply #47 on:** April 24, 2003, 02:02:39 PM »

Boroda,

I wouldn't call all goals achieved, if they were supposed to have a birthday parade in Helsinki for Stalin :>

It is also funny that soviet military tried to split up Finland with their forces, if all they wanted, was to just secure Leningrad.

Boroda · « **Reply #48 on:** April 24, 2003, 02:03:27 PM »

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Because you didn't go to a Jesuit High School in the US?

If you don't think the US is an open society where you can have access to and read anything you like by any author, there's no point in any disucssion with you, either.

Hehe I did go to the Jesuit school in the US

Do you have "Green Book" in the bookstores?

Could you buy Soviet books in English in the US in 1970s? In 1960s? 50s? 40s?

Toad · « **Reply #49 on:** April 24, 2003, 02:03:58 PM »

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Again, where did you see me posting that USSR never waged agressive wars?

What you said in one thread is that you don't support aggressors. What you said in another thread is that you support Stalin and what he did.

Can't have it both ways.

Boroda · « **Reply #50 on:** April 24, 2003, 02:06:40 PM »

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Tell me about the Soviet verison of the Katyn Forest massacre again Boroda... I love that fairy tale.

Hey, in you open society, why did the jam Radio Free Europe?

We never jammed Radio Free Europe

Again, I want to see DOCUMENTS about Katyn tragedy. Not your obvious fakes that contradict themselves. Again, I have a right to doubt, leaving blind faith in propaganda to you.

Toad · « **Reply #51 on:** April 24, 2003, 02:09:28 PM »

I didn't start reading until the mid-50's.

I'm not as old as you think.

Yes, we had books by Russian authors available in the 60's.

Do you have the internet now? Good! You might want to research things like Katyn and the treaties between Poland and the USSR in 1939....... before Stalin stabbed the Poles in the back.

Then we can move on to the "choice" the Soviet army gave to Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania. The Hungarian revolution...... Prague Spring...... The Purges and the Gulag Archipelago......

I've got nothing against Russians or anyone else for that matter.

However, the willing blindness to proven historical fact is another thing altogether.

It took half this thread to get you to admit to the Finns that yes, that was an AGGRESSIVE war.

Stalin was an oppressive aggressive butcher of his own people and of his neighbors.

Toad · « **Reply #52 on:** April 24, 2003, 02:10:27 PM »

But you are very entertaining.

crabofix · « **Reply #53 on:** April 24, 2003, 02:18:16 PM »

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Because you didn't go to a Jesuit High School in the US?

If you don't think the US is an open society where you can have access to and read anything you like by any author, there's no point in any disucssion with you, either.

I do belive you can access most anything everywhere

Tuomio · « **Reply #54 on:** April 24, 2003, 02:22:50 PM »

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In current state of military science breaking the Mannerheim line in -40 degrees frost, with 2 meters of snow and other goodies requires tactical nukes...

Yeah, well last document i watched, Russian made BTW, stated that Mannerheim line was nothing special. Couple of reinforced bunkers and few meters wide river in front of it. Intel knew the exact locations of these bunkers, but because the Russians sucked in C&C, such information never reached the warplanners.

You can "what if" all day long, but this thing boils down to the fact, that Russia sucked like Chasey Lane in their warcampaings. War is like playing scrabble, you have the letters you have and thats it, use them wisely. We did, you didnt, we rich you poor..

Toad · « **Reply #55 on:** April 24, 2003, 02:31:10 PM »

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I do belive you can access most anything everywhere

Yes, the internet made that possible.

I don't think you could say that 30 years ago, however.

crabofix · « **Reply #56 on:** April 24, 2003, 02:43:18 PM »

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Yes, the internet made that possible.

I don't think you could say that 30 years ago, however.

Ok, 30 years ago in soviet.
40 years ago, US, I know it leaves a bad taste, but does the word "anti american activity" ring a bell?

I was In soviet 1986, it was a horrible place and you could trade mostly anything (if there was naything availible) with some dollars or used mens magazines.

I went into a groserystore, it was filled, with one type of caned meat, that was it. No line though, like to the bread and the milk shop.

crabofix

Toad · « **Reply #57 on:** April 24, 2003, 03:19:47 PM »

Joe McCarthy?

McCarthy-ism was pretty short lived as an American political phenomenom.

And if you're saying that what Americans could read was ever restricted, I'd have to disagree.

crabofix · « **Reply #58 on:** April 24, 2003, 03:29:55 PM »

Cant really judge that, I am not that old, Toad.

Toad · « **Reply #59 on:** April 24, 2003, 03:39:06 PM »

I am.