Author Topic: GV's need to be fixed or be gone! (Read 836 times)

bloodstain · « **on:** April 23, 2003, 03:29:39 PM »

I know this is a flight sim and that is the main focus but these ground vehicles are completely wack. Last night rooks trying to get v75 had one tiger sitting on the field. Numerous b17 drops and jabos with direct hits and the tiger never even smoked!! Took so much time and effort on the one tiger the V base pops back up and the Knights were able to hold that base for a couple of hours longer. I congrat those knights and there valiant effort at v75 but that tiger was ridiculously immpossible to kill!

I decide to use a tiger today and took one shot from a panzer and I blew up? So whats with the varing innconsistances of this perked(porked) GV? I just wish someone could explain how one mans Tiger can take pure hell thrown at it and yet another can get hit with a rubber bullet and explode on one shot! So to sum it up please fix em or get rid of em.

And to all those fighting at V75 last night ~~to you all!~~

muckmaw · « **Reply #1 on:** April 23, 2003, 03:34:20 PM »

I personally put 4 AP rounds into an Osti a few days ago, from a panzer, at point blank range. I saw another panzer put 4 rounds into him.

He finally exploded after the 8th hit.

I can't explain it. The hit sprites showd up right at the point where the turret meets the hull.

*shrugs*

john9001 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 23, 2003, 07:02:58 PM »

tiger threads

the tiger would not die , we dropped 100,000# of bombs on it, all direct hits.

i was in a tiger and died with one hit from a 303.

etc etc etc

bloodstain · « **Reply #3 on:** April 23, 2003, 08:54:09 PM »

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Originally posted by john9001
tiger threads

the tiger would not die , we dropped 100,000# of bombs on it, all direct hits.

i was in a tiger and died with one hit from a 303.

etc etc etc

yes that is the problem everyone gets one way or the other its annoying allready!

vorticon · « **Reply #4 on:** April 23, 2003, 09:00:51 PM »

well since tigers seem immune to bombs you gotta hit em with fire...if german 30mm dont work try if 20mm hispano doesnt work try american 20mm then try .50's then try british .303's then american .303's then try italian .303's... im sure one will get em

akak · « **Reply #5 on:** April 23, 2003, 09:31:23 PM »

I rate this whine a 3.5 on the Whine-O-Meter. It just seems so uninspired and lacking a certain something it's hard to give it a higher ranking. It's too bad because with the title, "GV's need to be fixed or be gone!", one would think he would get a higher Whine-O-Meter ranking but unfortunately it just nosed dived from there.

Ack-Ack

bloodstain · « **Reply #6 on:** April 23, 2003, 10:30:24 PM »

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Originally posted by akak
I rate this whine a 3.5 on the Whine-O-Meter. It just seems so uninspired and lacking a certain something it's hard to give it a higher ranking. It's too bad because with the title, "GV's need to be fixed or be gone!", one would think he would get a higher Whine-O-Meter ranking but unfortunately it just nosed dived from there.

Ack-Ack

I rate your intellegance at about 2.5 on the IQ-O-Meter. If you don't have anything consructive to ad to the post then don't post at all! Funny how people are quick to jump on the whine trail on these boards. Gee and I thought the forums were for talking about issues and concerns in the game we are paying monthly for.

My bad I guess:rolleyes:

airbumba · « **Reply #7 on:** April 23, 2003, 11:03:01 PM »

I thought you were complaining about a neighbours horny dog , who just happened to be named GV.

But about your point: anyone who plays enough GVs will eventually run into odd things like you've mentioned, I just go with the flow, cause sooner or later, i'm the guy in the Flak who takes 10 AP rounds.

But I did notice it seems to depend on where you're positioned, someone sitting on the white parts of a town or gv base seems to have the ability to take more rounds. This might not be a fact, but it is my observation.

Bumba

Ghosth · « **Reply #8 on:** April 24, 2003, 08:13:14 AM »

Shooting tanks is not like shooting airplanes.

With an airplane its made of aluminum. You put a bullet in one side it blows up stuff, and exits out the other.

A few of those hits and something falls off it can't fly without.

A tank has LARGE armoured surfaces, bullets tend to bounce off unless JUST EXACTLY at the right angle.

It takes a certain amount of PUNCH to get through that armour.

Yet a good shot esp from above can pop right through rear deck armour & start fires, kill engine, disable tank. Perhaps even blow it up.

Are ground vehicles modeled not well enough? I don't think so. I trust that HT has done his homework. He's been through the GV damage modeling TWICE!

I think they are modeled just fine, but that as in the real world there are some lucky sob's. There are some guys who catch the golden BB and die when perhaps they shouldn't.

What I do know is that he's not going to go through the DM again, and all your whineing is doing is filling up space on a BBS.

Enjoy

Max · « **Reply #9 on:** April 24, 2003, 08:39:52 AM »

Anytime I get into a GV it seems a couple rounds of 50 cal will leave me dead or gunless. Yet let me make numerous passes with Typhoon Hispanos on a Panzer or Osti and nothing happens.
Go figure.

DmdMax

MwKAZ · « **Reply #10 on:** April 24, 2003, 06:53:32 PM »

Had .50's take out my tigr once, didnt quite understand the DM on that one seeing as how he came from the front on the deck.

But it would be nice to have a DM diagrahm or something to that effect. Would really like to know the AH DM strong and weak point areas for each GV with the level of DM (i.e. rear engine compartment .8 armor rating, turret 1.3 rating, etc)

I know some will say hitting a panzer/tigr in the rear is softer than front or sides, but really haven't noticed much difference between the areas when averaged out over time.

MwXX · « **Reply #11 on:** April 24, 2003, 06:57:25 PM »

$0.02

678 rounds from an Osti into a Panzer....and nothing but a "track" knocked out....he wasnt even worried about me...just kept on destroying the field....

WONDERFUL

LOL:D

Kweassa · « **Reply #12 on:** April 24, 2003, 08:27:35 PM »

bldstain isn't just whining about an everyday incident, I know, because I was there at V75.

I know how much the GV model was toughened up against A2G attacks, and how tough it is to kill a Tiger. A lot of the 'I hit the Tiger but it didn't die!' whines are exaggerated and biased and etc etc.. most of the times they aren't a bit close to bringing it down because their bombs just missed, plain and simple.

But this Knit Tiger, at V75 a few days ago, just simply refused to die. About four~five people in multiple attack sorties, combined total payload equivalent of about 30 jabo plane ordnance, plus two B-17 formations determined to knock that single Tiger out(of which one I was personally leading).. and numerous attempts to capture it by land.

My B-17 formation alone sprayed about 10 of 18 1000lbs all around the Tiger, and at least two~three explosions which I observed via bombsight which I have seen directly land on top of that Tiger. That's about 2k ordnance which failed to knock it out. What's more, as I hang around in the buff and observe other people lob bombs, I have seen at least three, four good hits. Still, it refuses to go down.

...

It wasn't until people got determined to kill it, and prepared a Tiger which I followed in a M3 with GV supps, that finally finished it off 'up close and personal' way.

I'm not sure if I can say it is wrong. As frustrating it was to see a single Tiger foiling a capture for the time length which the VH upped four times, and we had to knock it out again and again and again(plus, kill the Osties that spawn with it)... since I use Tigers often too, it really is a mixed-up feeling.

Hyrax81st · « **Reply #13 on:** April 24, 2003, 09:48:58 PM »

You may have hit the nail on the head with regard to GV supplies...

Why couldn't the Tiger you were attacking simply have laid out multiple GV suppies for himself and then entered the Tank to ward off your attacks?

Sometimes the GV supplies are not noticed by aircraft but the Tiger could have repaired/resupplied over and over again after taking massive hit. You just couldn't see the little boxes on the ground all around.

Just a thought...

airbumba · « **Reply #14 on:** April 24, 2003, 10:50:36 PM »

2 questions in regards to the two posts above :
Kweassa, just wonderin, were the knits outnumbered as a whole when the v75 battle happened? just wonderin if the same culculation that dictates the perk system might also affect the damage affect? just a thought.

And Hryrxa (sp?), i think supps. for gv's have a shelf life, no? Can they last all night?

Bumba